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Translations: Gintama 507 (2)
I have no idea why you would state that but Itachi has done genocide. Killing everybody from the clan. Women and children included. I have no idea what Sasuke has done to put him up with this.
Sarutobi did not forced him to do anything. He was in negociations with his clan. Danzo again did not force him. He just presented him with a deal. Kill the clan and i will make sure Sasuke is fine.
He attacked and killed.. Danzo? Considering what he did at the Hokage meeting nobody is going to cry after him... Deidara? They are probably going to give him a big TY!..
Sasuke do has his crimes but considering he helped stop the ET and saved the entire world by resurecting and bringing the ET Kages there i don't see why his past crimes would not forgiven.
Again, I'm not saying Itachi's actions are commendable but in this context, the intent matters.
edit : Besides Sasuke had every intention to do "better" than Itachi if it comes to scale (killing whole village > clan).
Last edited by Gats; May 23, 2013 at 09:09 AM.
Still, I believe that he can be forgiven, especially given he has Naruto and Gaara's backing and he hasn't actively participated in anything that led to Konoha's plights. But from that to Hokage is a big stretch.
Sasuke should not be a hokage. he might make better decisions than Naruto, but he's not necessarily about the village, but about Itachi's love for the village.
I'll answer your question on behalf of Kishi,
Just gonna say, if they all meet at a summit, ANYTHING can be forgiven, justified or not. Also wanna point out that he doesn't need to be forgiven for some of these.Originally Posted by Avishek
He didn't attack the village with Orochimaru though. He sought him out to gain power to avenge his clan. That's not a crime. Leaving his village and giving over his body would have been... but it didn't happen. Remember, once everyone heard he "killed" Orochimaru, they were relieved. Also, he's already redeemed that little mistake by bringing back the guy that brought back the Hokage. Orochimaru will simply say that "I'm doing whatever Sasuke asks. Thus, the aid you're receiving from me is directly due to him. You owe HIM for having your asses saved from a Bijuudama. Not me."Quote:
Reason 1? Forgiven.
Sure, but it's not a crime not to. Jiraiya traveled the world as a Konoha nin, but not under Konoha's orders. He did his thing as he wanted to. Though because Sasuke is the last Uchiha they would've been more likely not to let Sasuke go... so leaving of his own accord was likely the smartest thing to do.Quote:
Reason 2: Forgiven.
He also just inadvertently saved his life (and everyone around there), by bringing back Orochimaru, who brought back Minato, who teleported away that Bijuudama. You think if Sasuke told Bee that he wasn't his enemy, and he helps save the world that the Cloud will demand he dies? I don't.Quote:
Reason 3: Forgiven
That one would take a bit more explaining, but is not unforgiveable. He'll simply explain that he was there for Danzou alone, and that Zetsu blew his cover, forcing him to fight his way to Danzou. Raikage cut off his own arm BTW. If it wasn't for these mistakes he could've followed Danzou away from Iron Country and dealt with him without causing an international fiasco. It's just how the dominoes fell. With that said, the amount of lives saved by he and his zombie Hokage squad will far outweigh the samurai he killed and thus, he will be forgiven by the higher ups, if not the samurai.Quote:
Reason 4: Forgiven
Yeah, this one is forgiven the easiest of them all. But if you really don't think aiding in saving the world absolves him of killing off some fodder samurai then you're more emotionally invested than the actual characters are, lol.Quote:
if sasuke make it to hokage but if he doesn't sasuke will have a major position in the shinobi world(konoha), naruto will put his hands in the fire for sasuke and as naruto being the savior of the world, kages won't argue so much about and do as naruto beg to forgive sasuke and kishi trowing this news about sasuke wants to be hokage, it is for naruto and sasuke having a friendly fight between each other..
i would rather prefer sasuke and naruto having a fight before sasuke turned into the good side, that would have make it wayyy beter than a friendly fight
I wonder, given his unhappiness about not being considered for Hokage, and his about-turn that is helping the Allied Forces now, should I also consider Oro a hokage candidate? And if anyone's wondering, I'm serious. If Sasuke can be absolved of most of his crimes, so can Oro as everything beforehand seems to have been erased due to their part in the Kage Revival.
Leaving Konoha is a crime though. Naruto is the only reason why Tsunade did nothing about it... well, Jiraiya as well since I'm sure Tsunade would have had Sasuke killed if Orochimaru was able to transfer to Sasuke's body. Deserting one's village is a crime that's usually punished by execution in order to avoid spilling the village's secret. It's why villages call their shinobi missing-nins and have a squad for killing those missing-nins.
Hope it is not rude that I did not read most of the discussion. I just wanted to say that Shikamaru being Hokage isn't really viable. The Hokage as we have learned has more than just a Kekkei Genkai or clan specific ability, they have what other's dont have and it makes them that much more unique as a shinobi. Naruto, Sasuke, and Sakura are the only ones in the village who carry these characteristics along with Kakashi and Gai (Include Rock Lee as well, who else fight's like those two?). It's sad, but that's how character development lead it to be.