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    Re: Strenght on a scale ...

    kaido is def. in the top 5 considering he is the strongest creature in the world.


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    Re: Strenght on a scale ...

    Quote Originally Posted by NEMO View Post
    Oh my God, I think you're right! Roger became the Pk just because he found the long lost crown of Alexander the Great. In terms of strength, I heard he lost to a snail.
    Btw, please name the others that surpassed him in terms of strength. One Piece is getting more and more interesting, thanks to you xD
    That was my pleasure no need to thank me

    Roger died 22y ago , he died as the strongest that is true but WB for example was from the same generation as him but he kept on living till 2 y ago . What i'm trying to say that WB might have surpassed the power that Roger had at that time ....

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    Re: Strenght on a scale ...

    Quote Originally Posted by matzik1212 View Post
    That was my pleasure no need to thank me

    Roger died 22y ago , he died as the strongest that is true but WB for example was from the same generation as him but he kept on living till 2 y ago . What i'm trying to say that WB might have surpassed the power that Roger had at that time ....
    Isn't it the other way around ? WB was so much weaker than what he was when Roger was still alive. If he had the same strength he had when he equaled Roger, he would've roflstomped everything and everyone.

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    Re: Strenght on a scale ...

    I don't think Whitebeard was meant to have been a God on his prime. His stamina and reflexes decreased with age, but his power would not have been more devastating than it already is. And I think the Databooks also say something about his strength not decreasing with age.

    Quote Originally Posted by matzik1212 View Post
    Roger died 22y ago , he died as the strongest that is true
    Has Roger ever been stated to be the strongest? As far I know he was said to have "conquered the Grand Line", but Whitebeard was equal to him in strength.
    Last edited by Fox666; June 23, 2013 at 03:37 PM.
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    Re: Strenght on a scale ...

    Quote Originally Posted by matzik1212 View Post
    That was my pleasure no need to thank me

    Roger died 22y ago , he died as the strongest that is true but WB for example was from the same generation as him but he kept on living till 2 y ago . What i'm trying to say that WB might have surpassed the power that Roger had at that time ....
    I insist!

    Actually, it was twenty-four years ago. WB was getting older and his power was waning. I don't think he surpassed him in any way whatsoever. Oops, I take that back. He surpassed him when it came to fatherhood; that's true. Don't forget Akainu's words towards Ace at the great war when he said that WB lost to his true father and he never became a PK or anything and he is pathetic and so on and so forth. I think WB's power was at its peak in Roger's age.
    Besides, you said
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    I think many others already surpassed him in terms of strength
    You used plural here. You didn't quite completely answer my question.

    ---------- Post added at 09:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:51 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Fox666 View Post
    Has Roger ever been stated to be the strongest? As far I know he was said to have "conquered the Grand Line", but Whitebeard was equal to him in strength.
    GL was swarming with strong enemies beyond anyone's wildest imagination. How do you think he conquered it? By the use of a plan? He ain't the man with the plan. And don't forget the intro of One Piece. "Fame, power, wealth, the man who had 'em all, Gold Roger. These were his last words..."
    Last edited by NEMO; June 23, 2013 at 03:54 PM.

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    99 Gol D Roger
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    Re: Strenght on a scale ...

    Blackbeard was not that strong before the timeskip. He defeated Ace because of his Devil Fruit, but otherwise he still got a beating from Luffy or Magellan. It took his whole crew to put down and deadly injuried Whitebeard, and still suffered in the hands of Sengoku and the crew ran away from Akainu.
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    Re: Strenght on a scale ...

    There is no way Ace should be equals with Marco. Ace is on par with Jinbei, whom Luffy should be stronger than.

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    Re: Strenght on a scale ...

    Quote Originally Posted by GomuGomu_Getsuga View Post
    There is no way Ace should be equals with Marco. Ace is on par with Jinbei, whom Luffy should be stronger than.
    but didn't say oda that all the commanders got equal power?
    and since when do df's not count? where would be akainus power then?
    killed ace with df, injured wb with df.
    we don't know if blackbeard would have died from the poison.
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    Re: Strenght on a scale ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhbaer View Post
    but didn't say oda that all the commanders got equal power?
    Equal rank, not power.

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    Re: Strenght on a scale ...

    zoro is definitely > ace

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    Re: Strenght on a scale ...

    Quote Originally Posted by KingOfNight View Post
    Equal rank, not power.
    why would oda need to tell us, that commanders got equal rank? since they are all called "commanders" !?! I don't really get it :S
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    Re: Strenght on a scale ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhbaer View Post
    why would oda need to tell us, that commanders got equal rank? since they are all called "commanders" !?! I don't really get it :S
    Because some people believe that Marco has more authority in the crew than Ace or Jozu due to him being the first division commander. Oda wanted to make it clear that no commander has more authority than another.

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    Re: Strenght on a scale ...

    Quote Originally Posted by KingOfNight View Post
    Because some people believe that Marco has more authority in the crew than Ace or Jozu due to him being the first division commander. Oda wanted to make it clear that no commander has more authority than another.
    why would he need to tell us, whitebeard told us, that even squardo is as special as ace :/
    found a eng trans from a interview:
    Reader: About the Whitebeard Pirates, if there are pirates from the "Whitebeard ally groups", is there a possibility of one of them becoming a commander of the real Whitebeard Pirates itself? Or are the commanders all from the real Whitebeard Pirates from the beginning? P.N. amanuts

    Oda: Ok, I'll explain a little about the Whitebeard Pirates. First, captain Whitebeard and the 16 commanders. All 16 commanders, despite numbers and ages have the same strength. All the same. Whitebeard Pirates are just split in 16 groups. the 43 ally pirate ships are not any part of the Whitebeard Pirates and are usually all just scattered everywhere living their own little lives. Yet they are loyal to Whitebeard, and help him in desperate times. They are like that. In Ace's case, the Spade Pirates were destroyed, and all the members joined the Whitebeard Pirates, so he was able to become a commander.

    Maybe you can find the original and translate it more accurately?
    thanks a bunch !
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    Re: Strenght on a scale ...

    Quote Originally Posted by KingOfNight View Post
    Because some people believe that Marco has more authority in the crew than Ace or Jozu due to him being the first division commander. Oda wanted to make it clear that no commander has more authority than another.
    But he do have more authority sort of. Not because he is the commander of the first division, but because he is Whitebeard's right hand. He was also in control of everything after Whitebeard died.
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