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    Compilation of the true history and facts about giants

    Ok, the story seems pretty convoluted by now and even though it does seem like mysteries will be revealed shortly we still lack a lot of information.

    I was thinking we could build a thread where members would link facts then I or a mod would add them to the OP and we could little by little gather all the relevant data concerning the parts of the plot we don't know about. Mainly I would like to compile the following:

    Information on titans, their origins and their nature
    Information about history of the manga and events concerning the overall plot (so far it seems a decent bit of what we know about history is made out of lies)
    Hints about who the enemy really is(I get the feeling that we should already be able to at least grasp who the enemy really is, I just can't put my finger on it).


    We could add a few topics to compile information on later on.

    Now, the purpose of the thread would not be to just gather information but also to discuss it. I am of the idea that having every relevant piece of data readily available in the OP could help us get a better picture of what is going on here. I would love to get started this second but I really can't. I am hoping to get started tonight.

    Another thing which I would like to be able to put here is information about Norse mythology relevant to the symbolism seen in the manga. I myself am not very familiar with Norse mythology so I would find this particularly useful. for example, linking the wikipedia page to castle utgard could be useful. Of course better sources are encourage, specially if they help us get some perspective of what is going on in the manga.

    Hopefully tonight I will be able to add some stuff to the OP and with the help of everyone we can gather as many facts as possible. If anyone has any thoughts about other information we could compile information on I am more than open to suggestions.

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    Spoiler: Relevant Norse mythology Symbolism information show



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    Re: Compilation of the true history and facts about giants

    I think this is a brilliant idea kkck, I love it. Definitely using the full potential of our forum!


    Sorry for sounding audacious, just want to input some small ideas:

    In terms of presenting the information, I think when compiling the evidence, short bullet points will do the trick. In doing so, everything is easier to read/find. This also makes it much easier to compile/sort/write in the long run!


    Regarding the thread, I wonder what is the best way to discuss the information. Going by the three suggested topics (History, Titans, Enemy,) discussion under the same thread could turn out pretty messy and difficult to navigate through. Not only so, the first few posts usually decide the topic of discussion and hence discourage the other topics until the current conversation die down.

    While making 3 separate threads might start off tidily, they are destined to crossover at some point. Nonetheless, this will definitely promote discussion equally over the three topics, and discussion could gravitate back towards their original topic much easier.

    In the latter case, maybe having a really informative first post as reference for each of the three threads will be much easier to sort/find/talk?

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    Re: Compilation of the true history and facts about giants

    Bullets are certainly the easiest way to classify information here. I was thinking along the lines of that too. My idea was to have bullets for different points and levels so to speak and have each one give a brief description of a fact presented in the manga (not interpretations of the facts and no more than a line). For instance:

    Now, as for having 3 threads, I think that might be a future step depending on how this one turns out. If we gather enough facts on each topic then perhaps it would make more sense. Right now I would honestly rather focus on gathering facts and hints regarding the story and its plot.

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    Re: Compilation of the true history and facts about giants

    Ah right I see. Yeah I was wondering if I had misunderstood you ^^;

    So basically a chronology-type of list of significant events referencing sources? I agree that should be the best way to go about it!

    I can definitely help out whenever I find the time, especially when classes are finally finished!

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    Re: Compilation of the true history and facts about giants


    So here's a bit to get things started. Not sure about year of Ilse's expedition. Hanji said it was last year, but I'm not sure when was the expedition in which Hanji and Levi found the journal.

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    Re: Compilation of the true history and facts about giants

    Thanks for the contributions.

    Just a note though, mangareader is not available in many countries, in particular the united states. For some readers this would be a bit of an inconvenient. It is preferable to use mangapanda when possible, I will make changes to what already is in the OP as soon as I can to fix this.

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    Re: Compilation of the true history and facts about giants

    Quote Originally Posted by kkck View Post
    Thanks for the contributions.

    Just a note though, mangareader is not available in many countries, in particular the united states. For some readers this would be a bit of an inconvenient. It is preferable to use mangapanda when possible, I will make changes to what already is in the OP as soon as I can to fix this.

    Ah I have no idea! Good idea, thanks for the note

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    Re: Compilation of the true history and facts about giants

    Ok, just added a few more things and changed the links so that they would open mangapanda pages. Keep information coming!

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    Re: Compilation of the true history and facts about giants

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    Re: Compilation of the true history and facts about giants

    I was thinking of adding references of annie and reyner calling themselves warriors. I know where the references are however I am not entirely sure of where to add them in the list. I think this is relevant because it relates to their culture in regards to how they fight and deal with situation. They are warriors, not soldiers, I think this is extremely relevant(in particular to reyner being mentally unstable).

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    Re: Compilation of the true history and facts about giants

    Reiner and Bertolt said they were warriors in the last chapter but not Annie. And I don't think you should add them.
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    Re: Compilation of the true history and facts about giants

    Annie said she was a warrior well before current chapters although unlike R&B she has only said it once.

    ---------- Post added at 07:01 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:06 PM ----------

    Added this:
    http://www.mangareader.net/shingeki-no-kyojin/40/44
    Ymir saves reiner and berholt as kids.

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    Re: Compilation of the true history and facts about giants

    Quote Originally Posted by kkck View Post
    I was thinking of adding references of annie and reyner calling themselves warriors. I know where the references are however I am not entirely sure of where to add them in the list. I think this is relevant because it relates to their culture in regards to how they fight and deal with situation. They are warriors, not soldiers, I think this is extremely relevant(in particular to reyner being mentally unstable).
    Since, in light of the latest facts, this seem to be extremely relevant info, I think you should add those references.

    I guess adding a new section about Factions in SnK's world would work best. R&B&A all seem to be from the same Faction (warriors, or w/e), while it's pretty much clear Ymir isn't.

    Also, there's the whole thing about the True Enemy, which I think is major enough to be mentioned as well.

    EDIT: oh I noticed, under the History of the SnK World and specific plots/events spoiler, this event is listed
    ymr saves reyner and berholt as kids

    like, "saves"? are you sure? It looks more like Ymir was feasting on a friend of theirs. Also, by judging how they look scared as fuck in the following page, I have a hard time believing R&B consider Ymir as having saved them in any possible way.

    Change that to "Ymir is shown devouring one of Reiner's and Bertholdt's friends in their childhood memories" or maybe "It's revealed Reiner and Bertholdt already met with Ymir in her Titan form when they were still kids" if you want to keep it more neutral-opinion oriented.
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    Re: Compilation of the true history and facts about giants

    Sorry for the rough formatting, gotta rush off in a sec but just two links I've saved up:

    Someone called Keiji (Japanese name!? Oriental race??) (Fits under the SnK world section?)
    http://www.mangapanda.com/shingeki-no-kyojin/34/4

    Annie more or less calling herself a warrior:
    http://www.mangapanda.com/shingeki-no-kyojin/31/40

    Reiner and Bertholdt's 'warrior' talk is in volume 10, but I don't have time to find the links yet, will do later!

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