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Thread: No one in the Straw Hat crew's parents were/are around.

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    No one in the Straw Hat crew's parents were/are around.

    Don't get me wrong this is completely unimportant and random, but i was just thinking about it. And literally everyone who had parents around died and anyone who else didn't ever have their parents around. Thought it was a strange trend.

    Luffy - He lived with Dadan most the time, and didn't even find out he had a dad until he was 17.

    Zoro - His parents were never spoken of, he was shown living in the dojo.

    Usopp - His dad left to be a pirate, and when he was young his mom died.

    Sanji - He was shown living on a boat as a chef since he was young, then proceeded to live on another boat as a chef. Parents never spoken of so assume abandon.

    Nami - She was abandoned by her parents when she was fresh baby status, found by Bellemere, who dies a few years later to Arlong.

    Chopper - Instant abandoned for blue nose, then found by Doctor Hiruluk who dies shortly after.

    Robin - Mom was never around, then the day she meets her, she dies.

    Franky - Abandoned by pirate father, found by Tom, then tom dies.

    Brook - Never mentioned, but parents are obviously long dead.


    Its not so extremely interesting, but i do find it odd.

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    Re: No one in the Straw Hat crew's parents were/are around.

    The only odd thing would be Zoro's and Sanji's parents, but instead of them they was kinda "adobted" by Dodjo Master and a Chief Master (so i gues they consider them as their "Fathers") the rest is not a big deal....but well,yes, it is the Oda we are speking about, so there is always a possibility for any parent of any Straw Hat Crew to pop out of nowhere.

    update:
    Oh and Aokiji have some warm feelings toward Robin..what if?....hair colors match

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    Re: No one in the Straw Hat crew's parents were/are around.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shader View Post
    The only odd thing would be Zoro's and Sanji's parents, but instead of them they was kinda "adobted" by Dodjo Master and a Chief Master (so i gues they consider them as their "Fathers") the rest is not a big deal....but well,yes, it is the Oda we are speking about, so there is always a possibility for any parent of any Straw Hat Crew to pop out of nowhere.

    update:
    Oh and Aokiji have some warm feelings toward Robin..what if?....hair colors match
    that'd be the best twist ever if aokiji was pops

    robins just like : DAD! why are you always trying to hunt me down infront my FRIENDS?! I HATE YOU

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    Re: No one in the Straw Hat crew's parents were/are around.

    yes, that's the reason for the attachment between them. imo.

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    Re: No one in the Straw Hat crew's parents were/are around.

    Aokiji is not Robin's dad. True story. No, he's not, don't reply.

    Well, Usopp and Luffy are bound to meet their fathers in the future, at least. Maybe Franky too. Out of all these, I'd say Luffy's mother is the most mysterious. What's the big secret? If she died at childbirth or when he was a kid, you'd expect some info to pop out. But nothing. Nor did the idiot think of asking Garp about the mother. Or maybe Luffy knows something we don't.

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    Re: No one in the Straw Hat crew's parents were/are around.

    Family is used by Oda as a narrative resource: usually whenever the story of a family is told, there are beloved members in danger and a hero or a protagonist is born of the story. Here there is an old interesting thread (with only 2 posts ) about it:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josef K. View Post
    It is a common theme in One Piece, but before I go on, no this is not about the main characters, for example Luffy, and another example Ace. Or even part of the SH crew, this is about Family in general, including them. I love how Oda makes this a central theme, most recently with Kinemon and Momonosuke. It was a theme with Sabo and his parents, Nico Robin and her mother, Usopp and his father, Luffy and Dragon, Ace and Gol D. Roger. It is common indeed, it is about this theme as a leitmotif in the series and the meaning behind it.

    Family in general is portrayed by Od by being in danger. Before the WB war many families were praying and stuff, recently with the whole kids on PH and the parents crying to the marines. On Fishman Island the small children asking Madam Shirley about what will happen. Also the way Oda focused on the family on Fishamn Island when the crew was exploring it.

    Even though Fathers are dominant figures even in the world of One Piece, what does Oda symbolize with the many family relationships, focusing on children as well. For example the CP9 were orphans, trained by the government. So for Oda the government is a threat to the common family? And to the children as well? Is this why this theme is present, to represent that strong family bonds may hold people up in a crazy and upside down world like the one the people in the One Piece universe are living in? Discuss more, i am eager for everyone's opinions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ukimix View Post
    Does even One Piece have a "bad" guy with family?

    You're right. Oda's representation of "good" guys/(girls), usually shows them having a family that is killed or damaged by 'bad' guys who are trying to get their objectives, and who never have family. Thanks for making me notice it.

    Now, how does Oda use it? I think this way: OP is not a manga about family or friendship. Instead of it, I would say friendship and care for others is used as a main tool of the kind, by OP protagonists. That works in this way: family ties are central in the initial representation of a main character: you can find many characters caring for children, sons, mothers, friends, etc in their initial appearances,... and then being killed or seriously damaged by bad guys. But, once that happens, those characters that survive the traumatic experience, recreate their lives, find another "family" in their friends (nakamaness (ugh that sounds horrible)), and start to use those friendship ties to get their objectives. But, the objective, in many cases, has nothing to do with something like to get a family or close friends. In that sense, the manga is not about family or friendship as a theme, but it is a tool or a power used by the main characters.

    To sum it up: family/friendship is a frame idea or concept, used by Oda to create believable and loving characters. He uses it mostly in the beginning of their stories, and also to give power to his characters, it is a tool used by them in their searches. But One Piece is not a manga about it in the sense that the plot is not focused on family or friendship. It is a central frame concept, a concept that remains always behind the central scenes.

    So, Luffy's main power is to get people be with him in his search. But his objective doesn’t have anything to do with family or friendship (until now); (that would not be valid about Edward Newgate or Robin). In contrast, Naruto is in deep a manga about friendship: the breaking off of a friendship between two orphans is the beginning of a search, then friendship is a force, a power used by the protagonist, and the recovering of a friendship will be the happy end. In contrast, I would mark the will as the central theme of One Piece. All the other themes gravitate around it: friendship, family, power, stupidity,...
    At the time I wrote this, we ignore about DD's family. But anyway, the term can be only a nick name for some mafia guild.

    ---------- Post added at 04:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:12 PM ----------

    I post them here because some nice branches of the Tree of Knowledge section seems to be sempiternal virgin forest.

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    Re: No one in the Straw Hat crew's parents were/are around.

    kinda makes sense logically

    i mean kids that are raised undee ideal stereotypical circumstances probably dont grow up to be pirates

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