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Translations: Gintama 515 (2)
The only explanation I find about the Senju being able to resist to the Sharingan genjutsu (based on the manga material) is that their chakra can't be handled easily. Remember that genjutsu is all about manipulating your opponent's chakra. The simple fact that Hashirama has been able to break out Oro's control or the fact that Tobirama couldn't break out because of Hashirama's cells (hence chakra) is a big hint towards that, even though you can justify it in many ways. It's possible to think that trying to manipulate a pure senju's chakra is like trying to divert a stream of water with your body.
Besides, if I remember correctly, not every Uchiha could awaken the Sharingan, right ? Or at least not everyone could when they were still child, so we still have to assume that not everyone in battle had their Sharingan or not a completed one in some case.
well itachi wasnt a bad guy, or he could have killed
kakashi (part 1 kakashi even asked "why doesnt he kill me")
naruto (at least twice in part 2)
possibly jaraiya (definitely with kisames help in part 1)
sasuke (in part 1 and in part 2)
oro (in the flashback)
id say itachi could habe killed anyone he fought
so chiyo may not have been that far off
itachi just believed in peace
So from what we have been told, it wasn't so much that the Senju clan were superior as it was the Uchiha clan was becoming their own worst enemy, and basically being hit from two sides. Thus the reason that once MS/EMS and Izanagi were forbidden, they return to being so powerful, that they could even threaten an entire village.
That's not the reason. According to Tobirama, they're too emotional when it comes to the death of their family/friends, which is the bases for gaining MS as far as we've seen. And the Izanagi/Izanami situation shows differently, as they were sacrificing their own sight to keep their comrades from going out of control and made said technique forbidden. So it's more like simply a portion of the clan was power hungry and the rest opposed them.
I just rewatched the sasuke vs itachi fight
before they fought itachi explained why the uchiha were a cursed clan
now i dont disagree with anything you posted
because when itachi explaoned how izanami worked to sasuke during the fight with kabuto
he agreed with tobiramas reasoning
but i guess its acceptable to just agree that the uchihas are unfortunat because they do have ridiculous power and capacity to obtain even more ridiculous power
however the higher level power all comes at a very high price
The father's killed their sons for power.
An uchiha killed his best friend for power.
No wonder, itachi called his clan a pathetic clan. All they want is power, and with that, they're being annihilated.
And Tobirama's reasoning simply doesn't fly with everything we've seen, especially with the Izanagi situation which goes against it.
There was no killing for power apart from the early time of discovery with MS/EMS. Even Tobirama acknowledged that. And had they wanted power, then they wouldn't have gone out of their way to suppress their emotions and forbid things like Izanagi and MS/EMS.
According to itachis story about ems/ms
thousands were sacrificed
and even more death to discover how to make regular MS emerge
that doednt mean all uchihas were power hungry warmongerers it just means alot of them were
I highly doubt they were warmongers, more like they thought ends justified the means. If the Uchiha were obsessed with war, then they never would have agreed to make peace with Senju or stay peaceful even after Tobirama segregating them. Guess they were after power to protect or win the war, which could be due to Madara's orders.
If "alot" of them were power-hungry warmongerers, then they wouldn't have been willing to risk their own eyesight stopping the abuse of Izanagi or forbid it, nor would they have suppressed their own emotions in order to make Konoha more at ease. They certainly wouldn't have been willing to surrender to the Senju clan or put up with crap Konoha put them through. Only a minority seem to have been a problem.
im not saying they are terrible people
but i do believe the number of the uchiha who truly sought peace like shisui and itachi were few and far between
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maybe only madara was that way
but they were totally power hungry
and they did kill and take eyes from many of their own kindred