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Thread: Naruto Hangout Thread v.13 <3

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    Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12 - Part 1

    Quote Originally Posted by Rikudou King View Post
    According to what we were told, there isn't a difference. Even to simply move your arm to block in time requires comparable speed, else you won't make it before being hit. And let's not forget that Madara isn't someone who will simply charge in with a punch. He'll use his fan or sword, which would mean his reach would be quite longer then Minato would suspect. Even when Minato was prepared for Ee's speed, he still only dodged by a few inches. It's unlikely he would be able to dodge a length longer then that.
    Where was that said? I don't think you need comparable speed to move your arms, just the reflexes, whereas running or dodging would be different.

    But if Minato sees Madara using the sword, he can react accordingly. And if Madara doesn't know about Hiraishin, then he will be too shocked to be able to react instantly, giving Minato that second he needs. It worked against Tobi, no?

    All Minato needs to do is use Hiraishin. Even when he didn't know about Raikage's max speed, he was still able to dodge it with Hiraishin and appear on Raikage's back with the kunai he left. He could do the same here, regardless of sword or fan. Though if Madara holds the sword at arm's length....

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    Well, the only times we saw Madara charge straight at an opponent was during his youth with Hashirama, and it was implied that he continued that into adulthood (when Itachi and Obito told Sasuke his history). Since reviving though, he's either attacked with a ninjutsu first before rushing in or waited to be attack before attacking/defending himself. Madara doesn't have to notice a seal, he simply has to notice Minato appearing, at which point he would react.
    Different fighting style reanimated, so we basically don't know how he'd fight alive. D:

    But if he doesn't expect Minato reappearing, then he'll be shocked for a second.

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    Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12 - Part 1

    Quote Originally Posted by M3J View Post
    Where was that said? I don't think you need comparable speed to move your arms, just the reflexes, whereas running or dodging would be different.
    Sasuke's battle with Lee. You would need comparable speed, else you wouldn't be able to move your arms fast enough to block the incoming attack even if you saw it. Sasuke saw all of Lee's moves, yet wasn't fast enough to do anything about them.

    Quote Originally Posted by M3J View Post
    But if Minato sees Madara using the sword, he can react accordingly. And if Madara doesn't know about Hiraishin, then he will be too shocked to be able to react instantly, giving Minato that second he needs. It worked against Tobi, no?
    React how? His only option would be to run before Madara made his move. And despite not knowing about any of the Alliances tricks, he wasn't caught off guard or taken before he could react. His abilities clearly outclass those of Obito, who's easily been taken by a single high ranking ninja.

    Quote Originally Posted by M3J View Post
    All Minato needs to do is use Hiraishin. Even when he didn't know about Raikage's max speed, he was still able to dodge it with Hiraishin and appear on Raikage's back with the kunai he left. He could do the same here, regardless of sword or fan. Though if Madara holds the sword at arm's length....
    Madara is far more complex then Ee is though, and isn't simply gonna charge ahead with a simple punch. And unless Minato can react much faster then he did with Ee, the fan/sword will matter quite a bit.

    Quote Originally Posted by M3J View Post
    Different fighting style reanimated, so we basically don't know how he'd fight alive. D:

    But if he doesn't expect Minato reappearing, then he'll be shocked for a second.
    Itachi's the only Edo summon that fought differently then when he was alive, and that seems to have been more due to his sickness and habit of holding back while he was alive. Madara not expecting Ee twice still didn't prevent him from defending.

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    Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12 - Part 1

    Quote Originally Posted by Rikudou King View Post
    Sasuke's battle with Lee. You would need comparable speed, else you wouldn't be able to move your arms fast enough to block the incoming attack even if you saw it. Sasuke saw all of Lee's moves, yet wasn't fast enough to do anything about them.
    Because he lacked reflexes to move his limbs in time and the speed to dodge.

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    React how? His only option would be to run before Madara made his move. And despite not knowing about any of the Alliances tricks, he wasn't caught off guard or taken before he could react. His abilities clearly outclass those of Obito, who's easily been taken by a single high ranking ninja.
    If Madara tries to attack him with the sword, then Minato can either try to block with his kunai or use Hiraishin if the tags are set up beforehand. Even Raikage was unable to react in time to the sequence. Even when Minato was caught off guard, he was able to react in time to avoid damage or warps. And wasn't Madara able to see what the Alliance would do beforehand because of his Sharingan? It's not like Naruto and Raikage used their speed in a close range.

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    Madara is far more complex then Ee is though, and isn't simply gonna charge ahead with a simple punch. And unless Minato can react much faster then he did with Ee, the fan/sword will matter quite a bit.
    True, but I don't think Madara can match Raikage's speed, can he? If he's not that fast then Minato can still dodge the move with Hiraishin.

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    Itachi's the only Edo summon that fought differently then when he was alive, and that seems to have been more due to his sickness and habit of holding back while he was alive. Madara not expecting Ee twice still didn't prevent him from defending.
    how much distance was there between them though? I think that plays a major part in whether one can dodge or not.

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    Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12 - Part 1

    Only chance for Minato is to finish it ASAP. Cause in terms of stamina and Power i guess Madara is way Ahead Minato, He was able to fight for 24 hours straight, so as long as the battle grow, things will be bad for Minato. He can't finish him with Rasengan nor he can appear and cut Madara's throat instantly.
    Unless Minato pull some thing like " Mark Madara's throat with his formula and teleport a Kunai to it "

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    Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12 - Part 1

    Quote Originally Posted by M3J View Post
    Because he lacked reflexes to move his limbs in time and the speed to dodge.
    Which required comparable speeds.

    Quote Originally Posted by M3J View Post
    If Madara tries to attack him with the sword, then Minato can either try to block with his kunai or use Hiraishin if the tags are set up beforehand. Even Raikage was unable to react in time to the sequence. Even when Minato was caught off guard, he was able to react in time to avoid damage or warps. And wasn't Madara able to see what the Alliance would do beforehand because of his Sharingan? It's not like Naruto and Raikage used their speed in a close range.
    Key issue is that Minato wouldn't be able to react in time to block it and probably Hiraishin away. If we figure Madara has the same speed as Ee, then by the time Minato notices the attack, it'll be too late to block or escape without receiving damage.

    Madara has shown incredible reaction, superior to Ee's. Minto avoided damage due to the nature of the attacks. Madara's attack wouldn't be that way. And the times Madara dealt with Ee, it was at close range.

    Quote Originally Posted by M3J View Post
    True, but I don't think Madara can match Raikage's speed, can he? If he's not that fast then Minato can still dodge the move with Hiraishin.
    I'm pretty sure Madara can match Ee's speed. He easily avoided Gaara's sand, which we know is pretty fast, along with the aforementioned blocking.

    Quote Originally Posted by M3J View Post
    how much distance was there between them though? I think that plays a major part in whether one can dodge or not.
    Both times there was only a few inches between them before Madara notice: Ee and Tsunade teleporting in and Ee's combo with Mei.

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    Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12 - Part 1

    He wasn't surprised by Raikage's punch after Mei's attack. Makes you wonder if he knew Raikage was coming.

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    Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12 - Part 1

    Can't see how, when Mei's lava would have blocked Ee from his sight.

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    Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12 - Part 1

    Sensor? Cuz he wasn't surprised at all and react just fine to Raikage.

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    Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12 - Part 1

    As far as we know, Madara has no sensory abilities, else he wouldn't have been tricked by Hashirama at VotE.

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    Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12 - Part 1

    Sensing isn't a passive ability though, it has to be used first. Madara probably couldn't use his sensing ability because he was too tired or low on chakra.

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    Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12 - Part 1

    May be he have some sensing abilities alongwith Rinnengan, Just like Naruto did with Fox Cloak.

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    Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12 - Part 1

    Quote Originally Posted by M3J View Post
    Sensing isn't a passive ability though, it has to be used first. Madara probably couldn't use his sensing ability because he was too tired or low on chakra.
    Sensing appears as a passive ability from what we seen with Karin and others. The only time it seems to require concentration is locating specific people And as far as we know, being tired/injured shouldn't matter and it doesn't cost much.

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    Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12 - Part 1

    I'm not sure if it's entirely passive as apparently, to sense one needs to expand his or her chakra in a general area or touch the ground. Aoi and other sensors didn't even recognize anything funny with Danzou pumping chakra into his right eye or detect Sasuke when he invaded.

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    Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12 - Part 1

    Can any one tell me which place people are refering as Madara had some sensory abilities, I just re read the chapter in which he was fighting with Kages, and that was all good sharp reflexes and battle experience at his part.

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    Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12 - Part 1

    The chapter when he felt Hashirama's chakra from miles away. That awesome rape face he made.

    This helps to make me believe that the Rinnegan grants the ability to sense chakra, though it could just be his Hashirama DNA. I don't think there's been a Rinnegan wielder who hasn't shown the ability to sense chakra. Obito technically hasn't, but he's stated to be able to track people from anywhere.

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