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Translations: Gintama 515 (2)
I don't think anyone would disagree with Akatsuki from part 1 being the best villains Kishimoto could have thought of, but failed ultimately with his change to Peace-no-Jutsu/TnJ as the overall theme of the series.
Last edited by Schabrak; November 09, 2013 at 05:26 AM.
dude the akatsuki in part 2 was awesome also , until pain went all pussyfied on us and then tobi followed suit
other than tobi and pain the rest of the akatsuki was BOSS
Konan ended up being the only disappointment. Zetsu I don't count because he's a dumbed down Hashirama clone, say what you will about Obito, but at least he ended up doing something that actually mattered. Everyone did something that mattered except her which is sad. Literally the only reason that she was there was because of Nagato and Yahiko.
Nagato – blew up the leaf village, led* the organization.
Deidara – captured Gaara and was known as a terrorist
Sasori – captured the third Kage of the sand village, transforming him into a puppet which had the byproduct effect of instigating the second world war.
Itachi – despite ultimately being a spy, still murdered his entire clan.
Kisame – known as the tailed beast with no tail, ultimately helped to get information for the organization.
Hidan – captured the two tails.
Kakazu – fought Hashirama, captured the two tails.
There is really nothing that she accomplished. Unless you want to count almost beating "Madara," and not destroying Nagato's eyes. Her only achievement, gathering that information for so many years amounted to nothing at all. So ultimately I find it really confusing when people praise her. I mean oh she had a really good technique. But it failed to do anything at all. That's the same thing as praising Hinata for the the lion palm when it didn't do anything.
Itachi and Pain had great potential to be the final villains for Sasuke and Naruto individually, while Orochimaru could have been the ultimate final villain. Itachi was one of the most powerful shinobi, along with Pain, and together both would have been hurdles in power (and ideology/conviction) that Sasuke and Naruto had to overcome to win.
The Naruto section was never more lively than it is now...
^ Sensed well you have.
but alot of posters have either just stopped posting about it, or maybe even dropped the manga, as kishimoto has run this titanic of a manga directly in to an iceberg of obscurity
i am hoping madara can save this ending
Hard for people to be active when the chapters aren't that good and there's nothing to talk about. It's basically the same thing now, talk no jutsu, fail, pick back up, attack, fail, talk no jutsu, on and on. I also assume some members may have left because they're too childish to accept others' point of view, like SupremeMod so graciously told us.
I remember back when the chapter discussions used to easily reach 10 pages in two days, and I have 40 posts per page option. That's 400 posts in just two days, easy.
To be fair though, real life probably also has something to do with it. Between school and work, there just might not be time to hang around the forum. That's kind of how it is for me.
it takes all of ten minutes to read a chapter online, even a person in school AND working has time for that
it takes all of ten minutes (or less) to log into MH and post your opinion on a chapter
you can bet your ass that if the writing was better the posters would come
I agree. I have a full time job and about to be finish with school, and I still make time. People make time for what they want to make time for, if the chapters where better people would make time to post about them.
Also, for a few of the past chapters, the polling did show that the number of people who clicked how much they liked or disliked a chapter was more then the actual number of people who posted comments.