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Thread: Akatsuki has a terrible Hierarchy of Power if Kakashi could woop Obitos ass but not Itachi

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    Re: Akatsuki has a terrible Hierarchy of Power if Kakashi could woop Obitos ass but not Itachi

    If it was possible to heal him though, then I'm sure Itachi or an Akatsuki would have forced Tsunade to do it somehow. I doubt Tsunade could have broken out of Itachi's genjutsu if he was really intent. But we don't know how much the disease affected him... maybe even after winning and recovering after Amaterasu, he wouldn't have lasted long enough anyway.
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    Re: Akatsuki has a terrible Hierarchy of Power if Kakashi could woop Obitos ass but not Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by M3J View Post
    If it was possible to heal him though, then I'm sure Itachi or an Akatsuki would have forced Tsunade to do it somehow. I doubt Tsunade could have broken out of Itachi's genjutsu if he was really intent. But we don't know how much the disease affected him... maybe even after winning and recovering after Amaterasu, he wouldn't have lasted long enough anyway.
    I don't think anyone but Tobi knew Itachi was sick though as it was never mentioned prior to his fight with Sasuke.

    Not to mention, Tobi and Itachi were always enemies, they simply had guns pointed at one another's heads and thus couldn't make a move on one another. Tobi had to worry about both Itachi and Nagato. Making a move on one of them and failing may have opened up the chance for them to work together in destroying him.
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    Re: Akatsuki has a terrible Hierarchy of Power if Kakashi could woop Obitos ass but not Itachi

    I know, but Itachi could have told someone and enlisted their help. Though I'm not sure if Tobi would have helped, as Itachi being sick would have helped make Sasuke feel more rage towards Konoha.

    Not sure if Tobi had to worry about Nagato though. From what we've seen, Nagato should have been able to win, at least with Konan by his side. It does seem like he planned to betray Tobi in favor of his own plan to establish peace.
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    Re: Akatsuki has a terrible Hierarchy of Power if Kakashi could woop Obitos ass but not Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by M3J View Post
    I know, but Itachi could have told someone and enlisted their help. Though I'm not sure if Tobi would have helped, as Itachi being sick would have helped make Sasuke feel more rage towards Konoha.

    Not sure if Tobi had to worry about Nagato though. From what we've seen, Nagato should have been able to win, at least with Konan by his side. It does seem like he planned to betray Tobi in favor of his own plan to establish peace.
    Well he did plan to die by Sasuke's hand, but if he did kill his brother, then he'd have to go seek help. No reason for him to reveal himself and the lies he wanted to hide from Sasuke if he didn't have to. And he would have certainly need to do that if he wanted Tsuande's help, seeing as how she was probably one of the few with the skill to heal him. Kabuto probably could be he'd have no reason to. I guess he could have kidnapped Sakura if he wanted to, but this isn't fanfiction lol.

    Nagato never new the truth to Tobi's plan though, he thought Tobi was going to follow up with his plan and create a WMD, not the Moon's Eye Plan. If he knew that, and Itachi knew that, it's likely they would have sought one another out to destroy their mutual enemy. Of course, Itachi would still have to keep his true allegiances a secret, as he wouldn't want to follow Nagato's plan.
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    Re: Akatsuki has a terrible Hierarchy of Power if Kakashi could woop Obitos ass but not Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by Delbi View Post
    Well he did plan to die by Sasuke's hand, but if he did kill his brother, then he'd have to go seek help. No reason for him to reveal himself and the lies he wanted to hide from Sasuke if he didn't have to. And he would have certainly need to do that if he wanted Tsuande's help, seeing as how she was probably one of the few with the skill to heal him. Kabuto probably could be he'd have no reason to. I guess he could have kidnapped Sakura if he wanted to, but this isn't fanfiction lol.
    Would Tsunade even be able to heal Itachi though? Sounds like the drugs only prolonged the inevitable, and that Tsunade likely couldn't do anything.

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    Nagato never new the truth to Tobi's plan though, he thought Tobi was going to follow up with his plan and create a WMD, not the Moon's Eye Plan. If he knew that, and Itachi knew that, it's likely they would have sought one another out to destroy their mutual enemy. Of course, Itachi would still have to keep his true allegiances a secret, as he wouldn't want to follow Nagato's plan.
    What if he did and planned to betray Tobi in the end? Nagato likely wouldn't have attacked Tobi as long as Tobi went along with the plan.
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    Re: Akatsuki has a terrible Hierarchy of Power if Kakashi could woop Obitos ass but not Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by M3J View Post
    That applied to Naruto only as it was his right arm being affected. If the damage wasn't lethal, then Kakuzu would not have lost two hearts, indicating he died twice.

    Naw, Amaterasu can be nonlethal if the user doesn't keep it strong. I'm not saying it's NOT lethal, I'm saying it CAN be nonlethal.
    The FRS hit his body, meaning it could have easily hit the two hearts at once to take them out.

    Quote Originally Posted by M3J View Post
    It is possible depending on how each jutsu works, though. It's not like Dragon Ball Z, where it's all Kamehameha vs. Gallic Gun or whatnot. Didn't Temari's attack work differently from FRS's needle ways?
    Naruto throw it spinning-edge first at the Sandaime Raikage, meaning it would have been a slicing blade just like Temari's technique.

    Quote Originally Posted by M3J View Post
    She also had twelve years to set up a trap, which is the only reason she was able to do as much damage as she did. Itachi likely does need to know the time limit. Unlike Minato and Kakashi/Gai/Naruto, Itachi does not have the benefit of having people to help him or convenient jutsu to counter the ability. Itachi would need to be pretty fast otherwise Tobi would react and use Kamui.

    Those "same" advantages didn't really exist - all it did was keep them in the game for a bit longer. And there was some preparation because Kakashi saw the chakra building up or something. At least, I saw that being said somewhere, even if not in the pages in your link itself.
    Even before her paper trap, she was able to damage Obito pretty good with just some tags exploding the moment he attempted to absorb her. Itachi's clones have a much greater explosive range then some tags. Itachi is pretty fast. He was capable of blitzing Nagato while also taking out his summons before he knew it.

    Itachi only has to keep the game going for a bit, long enough to strike when Obito is solid. Don't recall anything like that being said.

    Quote Originally Posted by M3J View Post
    Yeah, double teaming and nunchuks helped. Can Itachi efficiently gang up on Tobi like that and deal serious damage when not even rasengan put much of a dent? He'd have to find a way to use his weapons to damage Tobi.

    And how would Itachi know if Tobi used Izanami? Even Tobi didn't know Danzou was using Izanagi until way later, and he should know more about Izanagi.
    The thing is, Itachi doesn't have to do serious damage, though he does have the means. All he needs is to create an opening to catch Obito off guard, and use the Totsuka Blade to instantly seal him. Danzo's usage wasn't normal though, which is why it took Obito some time to figure what was up.

    Quote Originally Posted by M3J View Post
    Teleporting speed? Cuz that's all Minato had. And Kakashi has Kamui. Itachi is fast, but he doesn't have the ability to teleport or Kamui.
    Minato was physically even with Obito, same with Kakashi. Itachi's physically faster then them and Obito.

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    Re: Akatsuki has a terrible Hierarchy of Power if Kakashi could woop Obitos ass but not Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by M3J View Post
    Would Tsunade even be able to heal Itachi though? Sounds like the drugs only prolonged the inevitable, and that Tsunade likely couldn't do anything.

    What if he did and planned to betray Tobi in the end? Nagato likely wouldn't have attacked Tobi as long as Tobi went along with the plan.
    I feel like Tsuande is capable of healing any injury. I mean she healed Naruto's arm, Lee's Body, and took Kakashi and Sasuke out of coma's. It was also hinted that she could have healed Orochimaru's arms. She's the foremost expert on anything medical so I don't see why Itachi would be any different. Might have taken her a while tho.

    I don't think Nagato planned to betray him because Nagato wasn't that devious. Then again, Konan planned on killing Tobi so it does make sense. But Nagato would of had to die to see his plan take fruition apparently by using Rinne Tensei.
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    Re: Akatsuki has a terrible Hierarchy of Power if Kakashi could woop Obitos ass but not Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by Delbi View Post
    I feel like Tsuande is capable of healing any injury. I mean she healed Naruto's arm, Lee's Body, and took Kakashi and Sasuke out of coma's. It was also hinted that she could have healed Orochimaru's arms. She's the foremost expert on anything medical so I don't see why Itachi would be any different. Might have taken her a while tho.
    Healing arms that don't have a soul? Remember the 3rd took out the soul out of his arms...how the hell can a medic put a soul back inside someones body?

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    Re: Akatsuki has a terrible Hierarchy of Power if Kakashi could woop Obitos ass but not Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by narutotheory View Post
    Healing arms that don't have a soul? Remember the 3rd took out the soul out of his arms...how the hell can a medic put a soul back inside someones body?
    May be her healing is God like and don't forget she is Hashirama's grand daughter

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