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    Kabu no Isaki by Ashinano Hitoshi

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    Kabu no Isaki by Ashinano Hitoshi


    Kabu no Isaki
    by Ashinano Hitoshi the same author of Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou.

    Adventure - Sci-fi - Seinen - Slice of Life

    From wiki:

    Isaki is a young airplane pilot who flies a Piper Super Cub. The Cub is owned by the beautiful Shiro, and Isaki often flies errands for her as a way to pay for his use of the plane. Shiro's younger sister Kajika is also capable of flying the plane and occasionally accompanies Isaki on his journeys.

    Kabu no Isaki shares many characteristic hallmarks of Ashinano's style: fascination with aeronautical themes; a setting in the future; a setting on and around the Miura peninsula; a vision of Japan that is isolated and nostalgic; and a natural world full of mystery that the protagonists explore with a sense of wonder. As such there are many parallels with Ashinano's previous work Yokohama Kaidashi Kikō.

    Just wonderful!!

    The manga is already complete in Japan (6 volumes), and Roselia Scanlations group is translating it into English. They go in vol 5, and the last chapter has been released 3 weeks ago.
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    Re: Kabu no Isaki by Ashinano Hitoshi

    I caught up to this series recently, and while it isn't quite as charming as YKK(not that I really expect it to compare with just 31 chapters scanned so far), it is still pretty good.

    What would really do it for me is if some YKK style "mysteries" were written into the story, like the Misago, those mushrooms with faces, and that enormous glider(I got really excited reading chapter 3 because the Macon II reminded me of the huge glider).

    The world is kind of intriguing. It's obviously not based in real life, modern times or any time in the past. I really like the idea of this being a YKK prequel. That would make my day if the author made even the slightest of hints to that(that's why I got so excited seeing the Macon II. Perhaps it is the predecessor to the giant glider).

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    Re: Kabu no Isaki by Ashinano Hitoshi

    Quote Originally Posted by MattC302 View Post
    I caught up to this series recently, and while it isn't quite as charming as YKK(not that I really expect it to compare with just 31 chapters scanned so far), it is still pretty good.

    What would really do it for me is if some YKK style "mysteries" were written into the story, like the Misago, those mushrooms with faces, and that enormous glider(I got really excited reading chapter 3 because the Macon II reminded me of the huge glider).

    The world is kind of intriguing. It's obviously not based in real life, modern times or any time in the past. I really like the idea of this being a YKK prequel. That would make my day if the author made even the slightest of hints to that(that's why I got so excited seeing the Macon II. Perhaps it is the predecessor to the giant glider).
    Kumabashi no koto is a one shot from the same author and it's clearly a prequel of Kabu no Isaki. Hitoshi wrote it after YKK and before Kabu no Isaki. (So Kabu no Isaki can't be a YKK prequel). The main idea is just beautiful and it's expressed beautifully in both stories. If you haven't read it, and since this one is the first page (so it wouldn't be a spoiler), surely you will find some echoes of YKK on this oneshot:

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    Atm, I do like Alpha and Kokone and Misago very much. But Shirosan, to me, is just absolutely fantastic. :-) Of course, all of them are unique. But.... (I say at the moment, because I'm reading YKK in the collective reading of it we are doing here in mangahelpers - links on my sig).
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    Re: Kabu no Isaki by Ashinano Hitoshi

    Quote Originally Posted by ukimix View Post
    Kumabashi no koto is a one shot from the same author and it's clearly a prequel of Kabu no Isaki. Hitoshi wrote it after YKK and before Kabu no Isaki. (So Kabu no Isaki can't be a YKK prequel). The main idea is just beautiful and it's expressed beautifully in both stories. If you haven't read it, and since this one is the first page (so it wouldn't be a spoiler), surely you will find some echoes of YKK on this oneshot:

    Spoiler show


    Atm, I do like Alpha and Kokone and Misago very much. But Shirosan, to me, is just absolutely fantastic. :-) Of course, all of them are unique. But.... (I say at the moment, because I'm reading YKK in the collective reading of it we are doing here in mangahelpers - links on my sig).
    Oh, I see. I'll have to check that out. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

    EDIT: I just read it, and...how do you figure that it is "clearly a prequel to Kabu no Isaki"?
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    Re: Kabu no Isaki by Ashinano Hitoshi

    Quote Originally Posted by MattC302 View Post
    What would really do it for me is if some YKK style "mysteries" were written into the story, like the Misago, those mushrooms with faces, and that enormous glider(I got really excited reading chapter 3 because the Macon II reminded me of the huge glider).
    Then, if you haven't read it, you should just read Position... (Warning: don't read mangaupdates neither batoto's introductory note. They just spoil a chapter).

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    Re: Kabu no Isaki by Ashinano Hitoshi

    Quote Originally Posted by ukimix View Post
    Kumabashi no koto is a one shot from the same author and it's clearly a prequel of Kabu no Isaki. Hitoshi wrote it after YKK and before Kabu no Isaki. (So Kabu no Isaki can't be a YKK prequel). The main idea is just beautiful and it's expressed beautifully in both stories. If you haven't read it, and since this one is the first page (so it wouldn't be a spoiler), surely you will find some echoes of YKK on this oneshot:

    Spoiler show


    Atm, I do like Alpha and Kokone and Misago very much. But Shirosan, to me, is just absolutely fantastic. :-) Of course, all of them are unique. But.... (I say at the moment, because I'm reading YKK in the collective reading of it we are doing here in mangahelpers - links on my sig).
    I think that instead of "prequel", you are meaning to say "spiritual predecessor", because there is no indication that the stories or worlds are connected at all. That is, unless we see little people riding on bees later in Kabu no Isaki.

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    Re: Kabu no Isaki by Ashinano Hitoshi

    Quote Originally Posted by MattC302 View Post
    I think that instead of "prequel", you are meaning to say "spiritual predecessor", because there is no indication that the stories or worlds are connected at all. That is, unless we see little people riding on bees later in Kabu no Isaki.
    Ahhh yes! I thought that was the meaning of 'prequel' with out checking the dictionary (my English is not good sometimes). Thanks for the correction.

    I see two elements that support the idea that Kumabashi... is a spiritual predecessor of Kabu no Isaki. The first one is sketched in this page:

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    Roughly you can see here the idea that what is important when you fly is the act of fly not, for instance the time you spend on that. Later in Kabu no Isaki a similar idea seems to have bloomed in the lines said by Shirosan in this page:

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    "When you fly this Cub of mine the destination and such... they're of secondary importance". Isn't that line absolutely fantastic? What is of primary importance is to fly or to be in the flight.

    And also in the whole chapter 14, which "Dragonflies" nicely presents the idea: First Shirosan is told by Isaki about Sayori and her enthusiasm for business. But she doesn't seem to be interested on it. After that in the following pages, Shirosan seems to be paying attention to the wind and to the dragonflies, and suddenly, in the middle of her conversation with Isaki, she decides to take a ride. There's no much fuel in the cup but she takes off. And in the following pages Isaki offers the explanation of the idea:

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    "Just as steady as those birds up there, like a hawk, or maybe a dragonfly..." but it's not something done for fun. And after that Ashinano-sensei shows us Shirosan lets herself be driven by the wind just as dragonflies do:

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    And to point it clearly, he shows us that Shirosan flies with out handing the cup's rudder:

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    There I say the important thing in flying is to fly or to be in the flight. That idea is just beautiful and the whole manga is just magnificent in presenting it. I think that sense of freedom is what the Ashinano tries represent in Shirosan's hair in this panel, that, to me, it's like a masterpiece:

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    Sorry for the long post, but, ey... I had to say it. It's just absolutely magnificent...


    Coming back to the spiritual predecessor topic, also in Kumabashi we can see the game with the proportions and sizes that later on it's presented in Kabu no Isaki (the tower of 3333 mt or those giants plants in which Kajika lands).

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    This idea of being as steady as a dragonfly is something that appears again in his manga Position, in the seventh story:

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    It's an important topic used by the author. I don't know if that idea appears in YKK because I'm reading it now and I go just in volume 3. But I hope it appears there too.

    ---------- Post added July 05, 2013 at 11:01 PM ---------- Previous post was July 03, 2013 at 09:46 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by MattC302 View Post
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    Now that I have read the chpater of the huge glider, the Tarpon, in YKK... thanks for not spoiling my reading of it. :-)
    Last edited by ukimix; July 05, 2013 at 11:21 PM.

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    Re: Kabu no Isaki by Ashinano Hitoshi

    Quote Originally Posted by ukimix View Post
    Now that I have read the chpater of the huge glider, the Tarpon, in YKK... thanks for nor spoiling my reading of it. :-)
    Sorry for bringing that up. You spoke so passionately about YKK, that I thought you had finished it already. If you love it this much already, I'm pretty sure it is going to be your favorite manga of all time by the end

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattC302 View Post
    Sorry for bringing that up. You spoke so passionately about YKK, that I thought you had finished it already. If you love it this much already, I'm pretty sure it is going to be your favorite manga of all time by the end
    No sorries please . You didn't spoil my reading at all. I share you this comment I wrote in the collective reading for YKK about the connections and common images among all 4 comics of Ashinano: the gliders (YKK, Kumabashi no koto and Position), the canvas (YKK), the dragonflies (Kabu no Isaki), the cup (Kabu no Isaki)... (We are reading vol 3 there).

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    Re: Kabu no Isaki by Ashinano Hitoshi

    Well, I was leaning(and hoping) towards the Blacknose actually being a living creature, but now that we see that it can go from the plane to that walking stick, I am now leaning back towards it being an advanced AI. We'll see...or maybe not. Maybe it will be left a mystery like lots of things from YKK.

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    Re: Kabu no Isaki by Ashinano Hitoshi

    Quote Originally Posted by MattC302 View Post
    Well, I was leaning(and hoping) towards the Blacknose actually being a living creature, but now that we see that it can go from the plane to that walking stick, I am now leaning back towards it being an advanced AI. We'll see...or maybe not. Maybe it will be left a mystery like lots of things from YKK.
    It could be a spirit that can incarnate in different devices, lol. You're right about the mystery. The story doesn't need an explanation of how that works to be good.
    I was waiting for Mt Fuji in this chapter, but I guess I will take one or two chapters more. Now, that they are going right to the top, that takes me by surprise. I thought it was going to be a good view of Mt Fuji, but a view from top's Mt Fuji... wow!

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    Re: Kabu no Isaki by Ashinano Hitoshi

    Quote Originally Posted by ukimix View Post
    It could be a spirit that can incarnate in different devices, lol. You're right about the mystery. The story doesn't need an explanation of how that works to be good.
    I was waiting for Mt Fuji in this chapter, but I guess I will take one or two chapters more. Now, that they are going right to the top, that takes me by surprise. I thought it was going to be a good view of Mt Fuji, but a view from top's Mt Fuji... wow!
    I'm excited to see the view from Mt. Fuji. If it's a clear view, it could bring some insight into the world. The story is clearly set in the real world with the Blacknoses going to Tokyo Tower and the Tower of the Sun, but it is also very clearly not based on our real world modern times. I think it could be just like YKK where it is set in the future after a "semi-apocalypse". Maybe we will get a good view of Tokyo and see what the state of the world is. And maybe a few more interesting mysteries will be revealed.

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    Still not there....

    Mt Fuji was declared world heritage sacred place by the Unesco past June 22th.

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    Re: Kabu no Isaki by Ashinano Hitoshi

    Such a tease chapter. I'm going to have to go back and reread this little adventure all in one go when it is over.

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    Re: Kabu no Isaki by Ashinano Hitoshi

    This chapter echoes in my mind with this YKK's page:

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    People who fly al the time (Isaki and co), people who walk all the time (in this case Shirosan). The point is that in both cases the character are travelling for pleasure (not work) and also certain apathy towards towards labour. It's much more evident in Shirosan, but her point keeps working through the whole manga: "When you fly this Cub of mine the destination and such... they're of secondary importance".

    To me, Isaki is the adolescent who finds his way and discovers the life and a sense of liberty flying the cup. But Shirosan is the soul of the story. I love her.

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    Is Izu = Mt Fuji?

    tristanthorn, Kabu no Isaki's translator answers:

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    Good question!
    In the above map, the Izu peninsula is in the west, Mt.Fuji is directly above Izu, and the Miura peninsula (where Kabu no Isaki and YKK are set) is in the East. So in Kabu c.34, Shiro-san is in Miura loking North-west across Sagami bay towards Mt.Fuji.
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