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Translations: Gintama 510 (2)
Just a random theory that I have been thinking on : besides their basic quincy powers (blut, shadow, arrows), Sternritters seem to have some very un-quincylike powers (As Nodt's fear, wtf ?). Also, JB is known to use Arrancars in his army as fodder. What if all (or most) of the Sternritters are actually Vasto Lorde that have been quincified by JB ? This would explain/be coherent with :
- Hitsugaya's statement that if there are a dozen VL in HM, then SS would be doomed
- VL are humanoid
- JB's statement that Uryu is the last true quincy alive
- the variety and strangeness of the SR's powers
- NaNaNa's look, a bit un-nazi like
- JB established his headquarters in Hueco Mundo
- JB mentionned he intended to "reeducate" (brainwash?) Ichigo ; maybe he brainwashed VL into thinking they are/belong with quincies. We have been shown Harribel captive : will she be revealed as one of the last SR not yet shown ?
- where JB managed to find 26 guys of level equal to or higher than captain in 9 years... even if he gave them directly power, it's hard to believe he could turn anyone into a guy with the power level of, say, Haschwald.
- I want to see some goddam Vasto Lorde !
What do you think ?
(Not really related, but on the topic of VL, if it is really Grimjow who helped Urahara in Hueco Mundo, maybe he finally succeeded in becoming a Vasto Lorde ? That might explain how he got powerful enough to get the drop on Urahara...
Yeah, it's more belieavable that he found 26 VLs in those 9 years, right under Aizen's nose. [Sarcasm self-test complete]Quote:
Crackpot theory indeed (I would know considering I write them on a weekly basis)
Anyways, I can't imagine there being a shred of truth to this. To begin with the stern riter have not actually shown anything even resembling hollow like powers. The things which you mention which are not quincy like are also not hollow like at all. Quincy having special abilities of their own is definitely something new however you have to consider our sample size for evaluation through most of the manga was "3" which is less than relevant. And of those 3 souken was dead and largely unseen, ryuken has been uninvolved at large and ishida has only had a few fights and it does seem like his seemingly mixed heritage got in the way of him developing powers (blutz for instance).
That said, while juhabach does not even begin to care about his stern riter he cares even less about arrancar and presumably hollows. He killed himself every arrancar that has been before him and harribel was not getting what we could call fair treatment. More so, nothing we have seen from the quincy so far seems even vaguely hollow like let alone VL like. A VL might be roughly human like but that does not mean they will be exactly human like. VL are still hollows and wear masks in the end. One way or another they would look distinctly different from a human....
Also, juhabach did not stablish headquarters in HM. He simply sent a small squad to recruit arrancar and he did not even care to recover it after ichigo and urahara took care of everyone.
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So yeah, I agree my theory is unlikely, but I don't think it is so completely ridiculous.
I think the SR(1000years ago) could of been eradicating Ancient hollows which were known as Vasto Lorde because they evolved into sense less killing machines.
Especially if the Latest discovery is inside HM was something to do with where the Ice Palace is located.
i don't think there VLs juha doesnt like hollows that much.
Last edited by Schabrak; July 05, 2013 at 12:04 PM.
Also, past perfect tense should be used in that sentence, as arriving to HM happened before vanishing.
Oh, and you can't be sure if he didn't mean "I don't think there are VLs (in Juha's army for example). Juha doesn't like...". You shouldn't jump to conclusions.
@Topic: Juha could have gathered VL 9 years ago and made them into Sternritters. Then, he came back to finish what he had started 9 years before. Without Aizen endangering whole operation. If Uryu by taking his Blut can be more powerful than SR, then I can see taking those Arrancars as soldiers and making them all powerful.
Last edited by Duniak; July 05, 2013 at 11:52 AM.
If arrancars can get that much stronger, than VL, which are on base lvl far above the common or stronger adjuchas, would serve/present all the power one would ever need to fight against SS Imo. Considering they would get the Blut treatment too.
OT: It was unintelligible, I tried to give it a meaning, your option would work just as fine Duniak. I just assume people from the english speaking countries should know better about their language than those that don't. Or at least put some effort into it when entering a discussion. Also, I was being polite, there is no need to become a wiseacre. Worse if you didn't even understood my sentence. He did come and vanish nine years ago, only to arrive again seven to nine year later on. Now which came first?
Well, that's the point. But we all know how that first Arrancar-Quincy ended up. Blasted away. Or rather his blood exploded. Maybe VLs don't have mask at all, that's why all SRs look like humans. But I don't think that's the case. I just wanted to make this idea sound less ridicoulous. xdQuote:
People from different countries are writing there. Lots of them are making mistakes and if everyone was pointing out those mistakes, there would be total chaos. And I know you're being polite, but I just wanted to show you how unnecessary it is. It can look offensive and "wiseacre".Quote:
He came, vanished, came again. So vanishing was before and after coming. You wrote "Took all VLs", and I made it short and used "came". General idea was the same. Maybe I should have used "took VLs" from the getgo to avoid misunderstanding. :P I just pointed out, that he "took" and THEN "vanished", just like you wrote in your sentence. And really, pointing out mistakes isn't fun, because we'd spend all day on it, instead of discussing.Quote:
Just to clarify, humanoid doesn't mean looking completely human, it just means having a human-like body shape. VLs are still Hollows, they should still have masks and other Hollow features. All Arrancar we've seen to date have at least a fragment of their mask left, there's no reason the VLs shouldn't be the same, and the Strenritter have none. Plus there are only meant to be about 10 VLs, and while plausible, it would be strange for only some of the SR to be Hollows and the others not.