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    Re: Tower of God Hangout

    Agony thread inside the Hangout:



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    Re: Tower of God Hangout

    I'm after you ukimix:

    let's stop, we should not spam here...

    the week is boring, coz there is no new chapter of ToG !!!




    seriously didn't SIU say he would do some updates on his blog while on his break, so does anyone know Korean, or at least knows somebody who can understand Korean for this matter ???
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    I'm reading Cloud Atlas from SIU and agreed with Uki's compliment about the color on Monsterguy... thanks for always be a fast opening thread mod, i really appreciated that x)

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    Re: Tower of God Hangout

    Quote Originally Posted by Monsterguy View Post
    I'm after you ukimix:

    let's stop, we should not spam here...

    the week is boring, coz there is no new chapter of ToG !!!




    seriously didn't SIU say he would do some updates on his blog while on his break, so does anyone know Korean, or at least knows somebody who can understand Korean for this matter ???
    Will you stop if I give you the info about SIU's post during this days? Then most of it is in this thread.

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    Thanks for all of your time and effort as the ToG mod, Monster.

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    Re: Tower of God Hangout

    Added some info about the 7th slayer from SIU's hidden blog

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    Re: Tower of God Hangout

    Quote Originally Posted by ukimix View Post
    LaFa from Batoto posted a sum of the 7th slayer profile, posted originally by SIU:
    Yeah, that's what I posted in the blog thread

    The strongest E regular is probably one of the "dogs" that Yama owned after becoming a slayer. He could take Viole being a slayer candidate instead of him quite personally in that case, unless if he is secretly a slayer candidate too. His entry into the workshop tournament could serve as a test for Viole from FUG.

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    Re: Tower of God Hangout

    Quote Originally Posted by abc1233 View Post
    Yeah, that's what I posted in the blog thread

    The strongest E regular is probably one of the "dogs" that Yama owned after becoming a slayer. He could take Viole being a slayer candidate instead of him quite personally in that case, unless if he is secretly a slayer candidate too. His entry into the workshop tournament could serve as a test for Viole from FUG.

    Oh, I didn't know it. As a suggestion, a link to the thread in your previous post here would guide the people to it.

    Yes, that's the test. I'm exited about Koon's plan to rescue Baam from FUG's hands in a more vicious way than any FUG could think. It seems the test is not going to end how FUG wants.

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    Re: Tower of God Chapter 151 Discussion / 152 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by zelllogan View Post
    People have the right to complain if they don't like the current chapters & they have the right to post. I don't get why mangahelpers is so narrowminded about that.

    Anyway I don't dislike this kind of chapter as long as there are some comical scenes. The "yolo" comment & the overall attitude of that fire lunatic made me laugh.
    In my opinion, SIU is currently following too many characters and because he keeps jumping from one to another, the story is not progressing that much. SIU needs to remove some characters around Viole after this workshop.

    For example, from the whole "Wangnam gang", only wangnam & the yeon girl are IMO interesting (and maybe prince). I don't give a fuck about goseng or miseng for example & I really think those two should be written off. Akraptor is your prototype "cool mysterious guy" who isn't that useful to the story. Everything we have to know about Horang is known. So, when the real team is formed again, aside from wangnam & the yeon girl (and again maybre prince), I don't want anyone else from that team involved in the future.
    Quote Originally Posted by LoS View Post
    LOL thats rich, implying that I've missed some grand concept you have grasped. No it was a very cut and dry chapter. Good guys won with very little effort, as was predicted. Mad Dog intimidated those on his platform, but it was necessary for plot that he needed a moment to display his powers; it was either this or he completely slaughtered everyone in his round.

    The big reveals from the chapter were Chang having come across Mad Dog in the past, Mad Dog not climbing the tower for a while, and everyone else wondering why he was ranked #1. Many readers presumed he defeated Androssi in the E rank regular tournament a few years back, but it was contrary to our thoughts that so many of the top fighters wouldn't even know the specifics about him and his abilities, i.e Anak and such wondering what the big deal was about him.

    SIU can just completely abandon team Tangsooyook for all I care. Write a decent ending from them showing them climbing the tower, or settling down somewhere, just so long as it's separate from Baam and Koon. After all, this arc is going to end on a humongous bang that will shock the tower, and send ripples throughout it. There are way too many powerful and influential characters/organizations involved.

    ...

    See I don't mind all the characters, it's nice to have many different perspectives, but the plot gets stagnant when he has to bounce around between so many POV's and we don't really progress that much. Others see it differently, but I'd rather the plot move on quicker and have a few less characters in the spotlight.
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    SIU likes to draw human characters who break easily, and in an attractive way. That should have to apply mainly to Tangsooyook team possibly with the exception of Horyang. The other members are weaklings, twisted and deformed characters, that use to cry for help, that can't control or that don't even know their own powers. But like strong and cool characters, they also have will and wishes; they want to climb the tower. We have there some archetypes, the little and vulnerable girl, the mother, the father, a pathetic prince and a pathetic and treacherous jackass that likes to scream and cry.

    Now I would like to point that SIU finds attractive those weak characters, those that can be just the opposite to strong and cool. Please notice it: he finds attractive some no cool characters. I could say, he finds attractive what most of the people finds unattractive. Well, I think that is a fact about ToG that has to be properly understood. That is, if you let me, SIU's particular and twisted aesthetic.

    Of course, you guys have the right to dislike of this aesthetic. Also SIU has the right to write the story he wants to write in the way he wants to do it. Someone can think his problem is that he's writing a popular comic, written for the big audience, and that it's a problem since the big audience sometimes doesn't understand much this kind of twisted aesthetic: "it could be fine if it were artwork, but ey, it's just a comic". But I think he just does it pretty well in, let me borrow zellogan's words, not giving a fuck about people not liking his personal aesthetic like you guys. And everyone only can accept it, or drop the comic. But... have you thought the guy has that kind of personal and particular aesthetic?

    In my personal case, I have the luck that I like the weaklings, and the characters that break with easy. Even more if they are shown in the middle of canon strong and cool characters of a good story.

    @LoS: Now I think you are missing what the author tries to do with his characters in this arc. "I have to express each character's charms as much as possible, and [rather than the cliches,] I want to draw them to be individual characters, each with their own story. That's why my next goal is to make the readers think 'Fun' and 'Gets into the character', no matter what character is the main character." This is something SIU tried to do just this with Mad Dog. The always very neat abc1233 caught it pretty well:

    Quote Originally Posted by abc1233 View Post
    I'd have thought the Mad Dog would be a bloodthirsty psycho but he avoided fighting anyone and even gave the guy a warning beforehand. Who knows, maybe he turns out to be some sort of anti-hero? He does want to bring down FUG after all.
    The point is that there is a story about Mad Dog, and the chapter was mainly focused on presenting that story in an attractive way. This is quite something interesting, because Mad Dog didn't end being just the psycho preluded by his nickname, and I think SIU just accomplished what he wanted in avoiding that chishe, and let us know this guy can have nice gestures. I suppose eveyone wants a flashback about him and his story with FUG.

    Lastly, I really like Yeon, but her speech about taking care about who you burn with your fire was lame. I hope SIU is using it as a background to a future lesson by Quatro to her about how to control her powers.
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    Re: Tower of God Chapter 151 Discussion / 152 Predictions

    I have no problem with weak characters, nor characters who are broken with sad back stories, have had a tough go of it and are just down on their luck types, but honestly for me the majority of Tangsooyook's members are just downright boring. I get the occasional laugh, for the amount of forced humor from Wangnan and the rest of the group I don't laugh enough, but I do laugh at and with them occasionally. The main problem is I don't care what becomes of any of those characters for the most part. Miseng, Goseng, Arkraptor, and Prince are just super boring characters with no real future for me. Yihwa is probably the most boring and bland of the lot, but she probably has the most potential and such just due to her bloodline.

    Horyang even if he wasn't strong has an interesting back story, human experiments, corruption of the tower etc. Wangnan gets a pass due to the occasional humor, and because of the ring he carries. You kinda want to learn more about him, but the rest can't be said for the others. I don't care to learn anything more about Miseng, Goseng, Arkraptor, Yihwa, or Prince.

    One problem with force feeding us certain characters is that they aren't portrayed or come across exactly how the Author envisioned them. SIU might think he's doing a spot on job with a certain character, but the majority of the readership can't connect or get behind a certain character. Instead of just letting them be we are now getting featurettes on all of them, even if they are semi-failed/boring characters.
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    Re: Tower of God Chapter 151 Discussion / 152 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by LoS View Post
    I have no problem with weak characters, nor characters who are broken with sad back stories, have had a tough go of it and are just down on their luck types, but honestly for me the majority of Tangsooyook's members are just downright boring. I get the occasional laugh, for the amount of forced humor from Wangnan and the rest of the group I don't laugh enough, but I do laugh at and with them occasionally. The main problem is I don't care what becomes of any of those characters for the most part. Miseng, Goseng, Arkraptor, and Prince are just super boring characters with no real future for me. Yihwa is probably the most boring and bland of the lot, but she probably has the most potential and such just due to her bloodline.

    Horyang even if he wasn't strong has an interesting back story, human experiments, corruption of the tower etc. Wangnan gets a pass due to the occasional humor, and because of the ring he carries. You kinda want to learn more about him, but the rest can't be said for the others. I don't care to learn anything more about Miseng, Goseng, Arkraptor, Yihwa, or Prince.

    One problem with force feeding us certain characters is that they aren't portrayed or come across exactly how the Author envisioned them. SIU might think he's doing a spot on job with a certain character, but the majority of the readership can't connect or get behind a certain character. Instead of just letting them be we are now getting featurettes on all of them, even if they are semi-failed/boring characters.
    I don't see anywhere the majority you talk about. Do we have stats, or does anyone have made a survey? Because if not, then that's just a mere speculation.

    Anyhow, what everybody should have to keep in mind is that SIU knows what he is doing. His weak characters is something he is intentionally developing; and I suppose the best we can do as readers is to see how that development ends, so that we could make a fair appreciation of those characters. Of course, he can fail in what he tries to do. But by now, nobody knows it. So that every current complain about those characters could only mean: "up to now, I don't like it". (Possibly that is the worst part of ToG, those boring complains of its readers in regards to Tangsooyoook members). But you can't/shouldn't bet you will say that tomorrow. Not with SIU, imo.
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    Re: Tower of God Hangout

    SiU is a master troll, we shouldnt forget that

    I had an idea, that maybe when the whole showdown with FUG happens, lots of people will die in between. And having members like miseng(who by the way has a lot of hidden potential) die, would add much more impact on Baam.
    Not saying that it will happen, but it would be interesting to see.

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    Re: Tower of God Hangout

    To make useful our previous discussion about a majority liking/disliking weak characters like the Tangsooyong members, I have created this thread in batoto, (the biggest english community in commenting ToG). It's a survey aimed to provide stats about how much attractive/unattractive the people find some characters from Tangsooyoong team.

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    I've created this thread because I'm interested in getting some stats that could be useful in judging, from the point of view of the big audience, just how much SIU has achieved what he's saying in successfully creating like human characters who break easily, as it's said in the market lines above. (I have no doubts about his success in creating strong and cool characters).

    A first question is who are those like human characters easily breakable? I think we could work with paradigmatic samples, so that we could avoid in some extend the discussion about who is strong and cool and who is a "like human character who breaks easily". Good examples of like human characters easily breakable would be Miseng, Goseng, Yeon (she still can't manage her powers), and I would include here also Wangnan (we have seen him yelling and crying many times). I won't include Baam or Koon because they are more problematic, on my view.

    The thread will try to determinate how much attractive does the big audience find those characters. To do it, we will not ask only for them but also, in order to be able to make a comparison, we also will ask for how attractive you people find some strong and cool characters. Our good examples of this kind of character will be Androssi and Rak. And finally we will add a final question about how attractive you find the whole cast.

    So the question is:


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    how attractive do you find each of the following characters and also the whole cast of ToG?:

    Miseng
    Goseng
    Yeon
    Wangnan
    Androssi
    Rak
    Whole cast


    All you have to do is to copy the list and write the respective grade in front of each character. We will grade them from 1 to 10, being 10 the grade of the character you find among the most attractive ones, and 1 the grade of the most unattractive ones. I will be updating the general stats from time to time.

    Also you can add your comments and opinions, of course. Please, notice that we are not trying to know if the weak characters are as attractive as the strong ones. We can hope the strong will have better grades. The question could be, then, how much better they are? If a weak character gets a final grade of 2 and the strong one gets a grade of 7 or more, I'd think SIU would have failed in his try to captivate the big audience. We'll be able to compare also the grade of the whole cast with the grade of each of the participants.

    So there it is.

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    Re: Tower of God Hangout

    Wangnan should be burned at the stake. I would've liked to have seen Quaetro burn him up last chapter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrostyMouse View Post
    Wangnan should be burned at the stake. I would've liked to have seen Quaetro burn him up last chapter.
    We'll see if the big audience finds him attractive or nor. My votes were:

    Miseng -----> 6
    Goseng-----> 2
    Yeon -------> 7
    Wangnan --> 8
    Androssi----> 10
    Rak ---------> 9
    Whole cast -> 7

    Surprisingly I see several posts with Wangnan taking more points than Rak. lol...

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