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Translations: Bleach 595 (2)
Yama's fire is actually reiatsu, it just looked like fire...
Going back to the point that Ichigo's Zangetsu's will never be fire based since fire is not the protagonist's element.... since the beginning it wasn't even hyped.. And it wouldn't make sense for KUBO to give Yama's robe to Ichigo when Ichigo can be so much better (better means being the main character)... So the argument that it will be fire based is just so out of line, it shouldn't even be invoked in conversations...
Gonna say this again thought, Isshin's Zan is not fire based!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I mean think about, he essentially has the ultimate melee weapon in his sword, he can't be touched due to his defense, he can fire a heat wave and can raise an army of the dead. He even defeated Juha Bach 1000 years ago with a power not even close to what he had now.
Look at how people have fought him. Aizen sealed his powers and Juha Bach stole them. There is no direct way to fight someone like him, and I assume the only beings currently in existence that would even be given a shot would be Ichigo (hence my theory) and MAYBE Kenpachi now that his full power has been released.
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As for it him not having a fire based Zan because it wasn't hyped...you do realize his entire character has gotten an overhaul now essentially? Not even his powers but his attitude and what he wants. Not to mention he being a Quincy was barely alluded to at all and yet here we are.
And please explain how Isshin's Zan isn't fire based. It's release is "Burn" and there's literally flames coming off the blade and he has a flame attack or so it seemed.
Getsuga tenshou is not a Sun attack, it is a moon attack...!
Ichigo did things that the Old man Yama couldn't do and that is defeating Aizen... ^__^
And we all know eventually that Ichigo will surpass Yama by defeating Juha who the old man can't defeat even with his Bankai. But still the point is that Ichigo's Bankai will not be fire based, my theory is that it will be the normal Zangetsu but just more melee oriented and blood bath oriented now that he has two! More gore!!!!!!!!!!!
Yama didn't defeat Aizen because his powers were sealed. Were you even paying attention to that fight? Aizen made sure not to let him use his Zan because if he did he would have lost, he even admitted as much. That's the whole reason he created Wonderweiss, so he could take Yama out of the equation.
And Christ man did you pay attention the Juha fight? He STOLE HIS BANKAI. Yama was defenseless because when you wield his Bankai you become invincible. He was fighting his own Bankai with virtually nothing.
And Ichigo was never about "blood baths", leave that to Kenpachi.
i pray to god that he can fire ceros like he shot from his horns in the hollow mode when he fought ulqueroia
that would be epic
And if we leave the blood bath to kenpachi, what will Ichigo go do? Be like Naruto with the talk no justu? Do you think ichigo will burn everyone? cause you believe that his zan is fire based? LOL.. I really like you.. no sarcasm, but please do message me again when Ichigo's zan releases some ember, just an ember would be enough to make me believe you..
Btw, Getsuga Tenshou means moon fan slash or something like that.. Hence i said it is a moon attack. I mentioned it to prove the point that it is not fire based.. ^__^
I told you before i just mentioned it to prove that there will be no fire coming out of Getsuga since it's likened unto the moon or named after that or probably to prove to us that like the moon, there won't be fire there... ....
i would have no problems with black flames but i cant think ichigo with fire-related powers
and we cant base anything on the similarity of ichigos and isshins bankais because ichigo's getsuga is clearly closer to juha bach's power and comes from his quincy blood ,not the shinigami
Let put this thought in to your heads for those who assume Ichigo has a fire based Zan. In a total eclipse the moon blocks the sun at which point creates a ring or outline around a black circle. While i know eclipses has nothing to do with Ichigo persay but think about the colour of his reishi its black and red.
Also wasn't Isshin's GT that he fire in the anime blue and white? not fire coloured at all
Going back the anime isn't all that accurate, since Kubo has always colored Ichigo's bankai Getsuga completely black, with no red outline. That would be an invention of the anime.
OKay..Just to settle this issue.. Based on the facts you can intrepret..
WILL ICHIGO'S ZANPAKUTOU BE FIRE BASED OR NOT?
don't answer what you want to be right, but what you think is right.. based on the facts that you know and have interpreted....?? How does that sound???
I think it'd be fire based. At least his Shirosaki Zanpakuto.