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In Case of Naruto, though he maintained human form while Kyyuubi was in control. but he was already in Kyyuubi mode
Consdering Obito has EMS, Rinnegan, Senju DNA and Mokuton I see no problem in him controlling the Juubi right off the bat.
Obito got those eyes through direct eye transfer,He didn't awaken Rinnegan.So he can't use EMS.If Obito can use EMS,Why didn't Nagato show a single MS tech?
Madara used his EMS technique after having rinnengan, if Madara's rinnengan can grant the user the power of Sharingan / MS /EMS then Both Obito and Nagato should have shown something, or may be its a matter of choice or knowledge. They both not using MS techniques can be because of that they didn't know about it.
Nagato wasn't taught about Rinnegan but used it subconciously and later discovered his powers.He could've used MS tech's the same way but Nagato isn't known to use any MS tech.Like i said Madara awakened the Rinnegan but didn't take it from someone else.Obito can't revert back to using MS tech in the same way Kakashi cannot turn off his sharingan i.e use the normal eye,but he can turn off his MS,why? Because he awakened it.
That is a valid point that their brain don't have the access to the knowledge that comes with the EMS, Madara was able to use it because in the begining of fight he had his normal EMS and soon he got rinnengan so he has access to powers of both eyes. That makes sense i guess
Looks like I was right, doesn't it?
This basically proves my point. Some of you guys here simply don't reason. When you reason, sometimes you find yourself disagreeing with Kishi. Why? Because at times, there are good reasons to do so. When you don't reason, you'll just be spouting ad hoc justifications. Now that Kishi made the Juubi slightly untamable, I bet some of you guys will do a complete 180 and claim that it made sense all along. Of course now that I've written this, there's no way you'll admit it.
I still don't completely agree (it seems Obito is under control now.. took him only a minute), but I hope I made my point. It never made sense for Obito to simply absorb the strongest thing in the universe and be able to control it right off the bat.
I think its the other way around - by 638 you thought that Obito ALREADY tamed the Juubi, but only after 640 we witness that he wasn't in control at that time <actually Obito as a jinchuuriki at the beginning looked like Naruto in KM4 or 6-tails when Naruto nor Kyuubi weren't in control, just pure brutal force>Originally Posted by Xrayz0r
Yes, it made, it took years for him or Madara to 'prepare' themselves for their plan <at least from the moment we knew that both Madara <and even Kabuto stated the same at some point> wanted to become "Rikudou Sennin" with both Senju and Uchiha genes; not only that, Madara and Obito 'received' Rinnegan on top of the Sharingan <Rinnegan associated with Rikudou Sennin himself> and we already knew that Sharingan can 'tame' a beast <mainly Kyuubi but I don't see a reason why not the rest of the bijuus>>. Just imagine Senju's life force powering up doujutus of that level and I don't see any reason why the Juubi wouldn't be controlled of the bat <and STILL, Kishi portrayed it like the Juubi really isn't good for control when it comes to any other shinobi - even with all those upgrades Obito had trouble to tame it>. And one more thing: someone without Uchiha and Senju's 'powers' probably wouldn't have a chance to tame the Juubi, literally.Originally Posted by Xrayz0r
Right about what? Didn't you say that Obito had taken control of the Juubi too quickly? What we were saying (well, I can't speak for everyone. Just myself) was that it makes since that he could control it so fast because he has every tool necessary for said control, and Rikudou Sennin gained control perhaps just as fast. The very same tools that allowed Rikudou Sennin to "control the strongest thing in the universe" are in his employ. We all should've known that Rikudou Sennin's feat would be mirrored by another ninja eventually, so why are you dead set on refusing that logic?Originally Posted by Xrayz0r
Even sillier, you knew before the war even started that the plan was to become the Juubi Jinchuuriki and then cast Mugen Tsukuyomi immediately after. What, did you expect Madara to summon the Juubi and then wait a decade to master it's chakra before attempting it? I don't think you did. Or at least I hope not.
I also love how no one's complaining about Minato becoming a perfect Jinchuuriki the moment he arrives on the battlefield, but Obito's feat is called shenanigans.
Well, if the Jubi is all natural energy, then the Rinnegan should have control of it. Makes sense in my head. haha