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Thread: Bleach Tournament Semi Finals: Team 1 vs Team 5

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    Bleach Bleach Tournament Semi Finals: Team 1 vs Team 5


    Don't forget to read the rules first before you proceed. You can click on character names below pictures to go to their Bleach wiki article for more information. This is a team fight, characters in the same team help each other against the other team.

    SEMI FINALS

    Welcome to the Semi Finals of team fights of the second Bleach Tournament!
    Here are the contestants who will battle against each other to advance to the next round in the team bracket:


    TEAM 1
    TEAM 5

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    Re: Bleach Tournament Semi Finals: Team 1 vs Team 5

    I'm sorry for tessai,but team 5 should take this too: byakuya owns soifon, rangiku stomps riruka, whilst tessai should be a better Kido user than hachigen,who was actually strengthened by the hollowification.

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    Re: Bleach Tournament Semi Finals: Team 1 vs Team 5

    Tessai takes care of Byakuya for a while, Soifon and Riruka attacks Matsumoto and Hachigen. Matsumoto gets instantly taken out by Suzumebachi, Riruka works to find an opening for Soifon to strike. Even if Riruka wasn't there, Soifon's speed should be enough to deal with Kido user, that doesn't seem to be an expert in anything else, especially shunpo. While Tessai occupies Byakuya, Hachigen and Matsumoto are being taken out, which leaves team 5 (no longer a team btw, it's Byakuya) in bad situation. In 3vs1 Byakuya doesn't stand any chance. He is not particularly stronger than other captains, he has much screentime, but his feats are not much (Please Firebird, don't go there saying how he is a noble and it means he is stronger than captains who aren't... xD).

    Team 5 doesn't have any tactics that could work to prevent scenario I just wrote. They only chance would be to go for 3x 1vs1. The problem is, Riruka seems pretty competent and she could have killed Rukia. Well, Rukia was stupid as hell, but so is Matsumoto. >.< Hachigen was Tessai's VC. Hollowfication or not, he won't be able to deal with Tessai. It doesn't seem like Lisa with Mask suddenly got stronger than Shunsui, Masked Hiyori doesn't seem faster or stronger than unmasked Shikai Shinji. That mask gives a boost, but difference between VC and captains are much much bigger, as manga suggested long time ago. ("Seated officers are strong. VC are complete monsters. Captains are monsters of those monsters" I have no idea where it was said). When they'll go for 3x 1v1 it instantly goes down to

    Soifon vs Byakuya
    Riruka and Tessai vs Matsumoto

    OR

    Soifon and Tessai vs Byakuya
    Riruka vs Matsumoto

    The problem there is, Riruka can hold Matsumoto for quite a while, as difference in power isn't that big, just like Soifon can handle Byakuya for a while. She wouldn't kill him quickly, maybe she wouldn't catch him at all, his blade are good defense, almost absolute if used skillfully. But Byakuya wouldn't catch Soifon either. Soifon is one of fastest captains in G13. What am I saying? She is THE FASTEST. Her Squad concetrates on Shunpo and Hakuda ONLY. To show Kirinji's speed who was attacked? Soifon. Why? To show how Kirinji is faster than anyone in G13. So Soifon won't kill Byakuya, Byakuya won't kill Soifon. And Tessai is a wild card there. He can help either of them (Riruka would be better option), oneshot Matsumoto and we're back to 3v1. If he goes to aid Soifon Byakuya would most likely go down, because he wouldn't be able to handle two of them. The fastest captain and most powerful Kido. And even if Riruka gets taken out (which seems not likely to me), Matsumoto gets taken out in an instant and we're back to 2v1.

    In any of those scenarios Team 1 wins.
    Last edited by Duniak; July 31, 2013 at 05:09 AM.

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    Re: Bleach Tournament Semi Finals: Team 1 vs Team 5

    You may be amused by this idea, but I think Riruka has the greatest chances of taking down Byakuya. Because "OMG he is a hottie!", and that'll make him vulnerable to her Fullbring. Then, Soifon pwns Rangiku bare-handed. The most difficult part of this battle is Tessai vs. Hachi... Hachi should be equal to him, or maybe even stronger thanks to his Hollowfication, so I doubt Tessai can win here without help. But with Soifon's assistance, he should be able to beat Hachi.

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    Re: Bleach Tournament Semi Finals: Team 1 vs Team 5

    While riruka has quite a hax ability. Byakuya has an omnidirectional bankai that swirls around him protecting him from attacks. Riruka even while turning rukia into a bear had trouble catching her. That speaks of her extremely poor physical stats. Heck I bet that even if he get's caught we have a vizard with the reactions to react to a respira that can outrun soifon. So he could easily shield byakuya if he ever got cought. Soifon would likely target byakuya given he's the biggest threat however I'm quite sure hachigen's barriers would protect byakuya. Rangiku would most likely oneshot riruka. nulliflying the affects of fullbring. I don't think soifon can two hit blitz vizard hachingen. By that time hachigen would probably have some marks but still be alive. Tessai could have taken out rangiku by that time. Byakuya bieng freed now can hold both combatants off. Then byakuya and hachigen take care of soifon and tessai. And this is assuming riruka doesn't get's blitzed from the start.

    Team 5 stomps

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    Re: Bleach Tournament Semi Finals: Team 1 vs Team 5

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroi Getsu View Post
    While riruka has quite a hax ability. Byakuya has an omnidirectional bankai that swirls around him protecting him from attacks. Riruka even while turning rukia into a bear had trouble catching her. That speaks of her extremely poor physical stats. Heck I bet that even if he get's caught we have a vizard with the reactions to react to a respira that can outrun soifon.
    Hachigen being able to react to Respira? It never happened. The only thing he did was shielding himself with barriers WITHOUT MOVING AN INCH, while Soifon escaped. You know what happened then? HE GOT CAUGHT WITH RESPIRA and he transferred his arm to Barragan. Also, Hachigen's barriers (4 or 5...?) couldn't stand Soifon's Bankai. So... not really, Hachigen's barriers wouldn't stand her bankai, he won't shield Byakuya, he WILL NOT have time to make so many barriers with incantation.
    Last edited by Duniak; July 31, 2013 at 07:30 AM.

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    Re: Bleach Tournament Semi Finals: Team 1 vs Team 5

    Quote Originally Posted by Duniak View Post
    Tessai takes care of Byakuya for a while, Soifon and Riruka attacks Matsumoto and Hachigen. Matsumoto gets instantly taken out by Suzumebachi, Riruka works to find an opening for Soifon to strike. Even if Riruka wasn't there, Soifon's speed should be enough to deal with Kido user, that doesn't seem to be an expert in anything else, especially shunpo. While Tessai occupies Byakuya, Hachigen and Matsumoto are being taken out, which leaves team 5 (no longer a team btw, it's Byakuya) in bad situation. In 3vs1 Byakuya doesn't stand any chance. He is not particularly stronger than other captains, he has much screentime, but his feats are not much (Please Firebird, don't go there saying how he is a noble and it means he is stronger than captains who aren't... xD).

    Team 5 doesn't have any tactics that could work to prevent scenario I just wrote. They only chance would be to go for 3x 1vs1. The problem is, Riruka seems pretty competent and she could have killed Rukia. Well, Rukia was stupid as hell, but so is Matsumoto. >.< Hachigen was Tessai's VC. Hollowfication or not, he won't be able to deal with Tessai. It doesn't seem like Lisa with Mask suddenly got stronger than Shunsui, Masked Hiyori doesn't seem faster or stronger than unmasked Shikai Shinji. That mask gives a boost, but difference between VC and captains are much much bigger, as manga suggested long time ago. ("Seated officers are strong. VC are complete monsters. Captains are monsters of those monsters" I have no idea where it was said). When they'll go for 3x 1v1 it instantly goes down to

    Soifon vs Byakuya
    Riruka and Tessai vs Matsumoto

    OR

    Soifon and Tessai vs Byakuya
    Riruka vs Matsumoto

    The problem there is, Riruka can hold Matsumoto for quite a while, as difference in power isn't that big, just like Soifon can handle Byakuya for a while. She wouldn't kill him quickly, maybe she wouldn't catch him at all, his blade are good defense, almost absolute if used skillfully. But Byakuya wouldn't catch Soifon either. Soifon is one of fastest captains in G13. What am I saying? She is THE FASTEST. Her Squad concetrates on Shunpo and Hakuda ONLY. To show Kirinji's speed who was attacked? Soifon. Why? To show how Kirinji is faster than anyone in G13. So Soifon won't kill Byakuya, Byakuya won't kill Soifon. And Tessai is a wild card there. He can help either of them (Riruka would be better option), oneshot Matsumoto and we're back to 3v1. If he goes to aid Soifon Byakuya would most likely go down, because he wouldn't be able to handle two of them. The fastest captain and most powerful Kido. And even if Riruka gets taken out (which seems not likely to me), Matsumoto gets taken out in an instant and we're back to 2v1.

    In any of those scenarios Team 1 wins.
    I liked this for the firebird/Byakuya comment :3

    But in terms of battle power, I'd say you're underestimating Hachi. He IS a vizared after all, and I think even as a kido expert as opposed to a combat expert his potential speed and Cero power - based on what we've seen from all the other Vaizards - means he can take out Riruka without much effort. I think the idea that Hachi will be the first to fall is frankly ridiculous

    I do think Soifon could beat Byakuya - Ichigo in SS was too fast for him - but Hachi and Tessai are roughly even, with the Hollow boost making up for the kido shortcomings, and Riruka has the potential to take down Matsumoto.

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    Re: Bleach Tournament Semi Finals: Team 1 vs Team 5

    Quote Originally Posted by Kazu-Sama View Post
    But in terms of battle power, I'd say you're underestimating Hachi. He IS a vizared after all, and I think even as a kido expert as opposed to a combat expert his potential speed and Cero power - based on what we've seen from all the other Vaizards - means he can take out Riruka without much effort. I think the idea that Hachi will be the first to fall is frankly ridiculous
    Well, maybe I underestimate Hachi (not likely, I think he is the strongest in his team, just like Tessai is in his), or I just overestimate Tessai. So far, VC with masks didn't really get stronger than their captains, so I don't think Hachi is stronger than Tessai. He is close, but not stronger. And him falling first is not a matter of HIS power, is a matter of difference between all 3 pairs. Riruka is roughly as strong as a VC, Soifon and Byakuya are equals, Tessai was and will be Hachi's captain. The same Tessai, that could use bakudo 99 lvl without much effort in Shattered Shaft training arc. Using one of those techniques worn out Hachi in TBTP.

    Hachi did get new powers, his techniques are probably stronger more resistant, but are they stronger than Tessai? I don't know, for me it doesn't seem like it.

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    Re: Bleach Tournament Semi Finals: Team 1 vs Team 5

    I'm not sure about this battle. Little things could significantly affect the outcome of the battle, particularly initial match-ups. It could go either way. Interesting abilities, and the effect of kido come into play.
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    Re: Bleach Tournament Semi Finals: Team 1 vs Team 5

    I don't know how to vote on this one. It's a really good match-up, with both teams fairly equal, even having fairly similar powers. Soi Fon and Byakuya are both fast, having sparred with Yoruichi in the past, Tessai and Hachi are both Kido specialists. Riruka and Matsumoto are the weak links here, but may also tip the scales if they watch and strike at an opportune moment. I think Matsumoto would probably beat Riruka, since even if Matsumoto gets hit by Love Gun and plushified, she can still use her Zanpakatou. Unlike Rukia, Matsumoto doesn't have to worry about not being able to lift it to do damage and will have more chances to take Riruka down.

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    Re: Bleach Tournament Semi Finals: Team 1 vs Team 5

    Team 5 are the favourites...

    Hachigan may be the VC of Tessai but he is powered up by the Hollowfication,
    Rangiku is ahead of Riruka in terms of power and experience etc.

    Only Byakuya vs Soi FOng is the battle that can go either way. But mostly Byakuya might beat her in terms of powers.

    So team 5 will win this

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    Re: Bleach Tournament Semi Finals: Team 1 vs Team 5

    I think Riruka is the weak link here, if she was stronger she could hold off Rangiku but once Riruka is gone, which would be relatively quickly, Rangiku is free to give Byakuya or Hachi the extra advantage to take down their otherwise evenly matched opponents.
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    Re: Bleach Tournament Semi Finals: Team 1 vs Team 5

    Quote Originally Posted by Tonix View Post
    I think Riruka is the weak link here, if she was stronger she could hold off Rangiku but once Riruka is gone, which would be relatively quickly, Rangiku is free to give Byakuya or Hachi the extra advantage to take down their otherwise evenly matched opponents.
    And she would be oneshotted by either of those two, as everyone there has full intent to kill.

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    Re: Bleach Tournament Semi Finals: Team 1 vs Team 5

    Quote Originally Posted by Duniak View Post
    And she would be oneshotted by either of those two, as everyone there has full intent to kill.
    Not if she plays her cards right and avoids getting directly involved. She can act from the sidelines to create an opening, giving her teammates the chance to finish off their opponents.

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    Re: Bleach Tournament Semi Finals: Team 1 vs Team 5

    Quote Originally Posted by Leonsagara View Post
    Not if she plays her cards right and avoids getting directly involved. She can act from the sidelines to create an opening, giving her teammates the chance to finish off their opponents.
    Yeah, because Matsumoto can't be caught if she is within safe distance and can perfectly hide her reiatsu, so noone would kill her. She doesn't have to be directly involved. Riruka goes down, Soi-Fon, as someone faster than Byakuya, one-shots Matsumoto just like she did Ggio, Byakuya wouldn't be able to react that fast. That's 2 Squad Captain for you.

    Matsumoto ability, that isn't really strong, wouldn't actually change something in a fight with monsters like Soi-Fon and Tessai. Quoting our mentor and nemesis, Sousuke Aizen, "Fight of shinigamis is a battle of reiatsu, the bigger one wins". Matsumoto isn't strong enough to even scratch either of them. And she can't create opening big enough to let Hachi/Byakuya finish Tessai/Soi-Fon.

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