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Thread: Bleach Tournament Semi Finals: Team 1 vs Team 5

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    Re: Bleach Tournament Semi Finals: Team 1 vs Team 5

    Quote Originally Posted by Duniak View Post
    Yeah, because Matsumoto can't be caught if she is within safe distance and can perfectly hide her reiatsu, so noone would kill her. She doesn't have to be directly involved. Riruka goes down, Soi-Fon, as someone faster than Byakuya, one-shots Matsumoto just like she did Ggio, Byakuya wouldn't be able to react that fast. That's 2 Squad Captain for you.

    Matsumoto ability, that isn't really strong, wouldn't actually change something in a fight with monsters like Soi-Fon and Tessai. Quoting our mentor and nemesis, Sousuke Aizen, "Fight of shinigamis is a battle of reiatsu, the bigger one wins". Matsumoto isn't strong enough to even scratch either of them. And she can't create opening big enough to let Hachi/Byakuya finish Tessai/Soi-Fon.
    She doesn't need to scratch them, just distract them slightly. She's plenty strong enough to do that, as is Riruka, even if neither of them is on the same level as their team members. I don't know that Soi Fon is that fast or dumb enough to risk taking out Matsumoto and leaving herself open to Byakuya or Hachi. This is the kind of fight that the slightest mistake or distraction might tip the scales, the power levels are that close. Also, Vice-captains aren't as weak as you seem to think. Most are able to at least wound captain-level opponents, even if they can't win in a straight-up fight. For example, Renji vs. Byakuya, Hisagi vs. Tousen. Matsumoto has Shunpo too, so it's not like she has to be a sitting duck that doesn't move. Soi Fon would have to put forth at least a little effort to chase her down.

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    Re: Bleach Tournament Semi Finals: Team 1 vs Team 5

    Quote Originally Posted by Leonsagara View Post
    She doesn't need to scratch them, just distract them slightly. She's plenty strong enough to do that, as is Riruka, even if neither of them is on the same level as their team members. I don't know that Soi Fon is that fast or dumb enough to risk taking out Matsumoto and leaving herself open to Byakuya or Hachi. This is the kind of fight that the slightest mistake or distraction might tip the scales, the power levels are that close. Also, Vice-captains aren't as weak as you seem to think. Most are able to at least wound captain-level opponents, even if they can't win in a straight-up fight. For example, Renji vs. Byakuya, Hisagi vs. Tousen. Matsumoto has Shunpo too, so it's not like she has to be a sitting duck that doesn't move. Soi Fon would have to put forth at least a little effort to chase her down.
    Soifon IS that fast, as she concentrates ONLY on being fast and on hand-to-hand combat (Shunpo and Hakuda). She is faster and stronger than Yoruichi without Shunko. When they both go Shunko, Yoruichi prevails. She IS fast enough to take out Matsumoto. It's not like she has to be faster than Byakuya, she can just throw an attack as a distraction and attack Matsumoto. Before Byakuya knows it, Matsumoto is down.

    Matsumoto can't really distract anyone with that dust. Tres Bestia didn't have problem with beating that abiity. And her Shunpo can't compare to Soi-Fon's. Chase her down? It's a VC vs the fastest captain... There's no chasing down.

    About fights you mentioned. Renji vs Byakuya. Okay, Renji is a VC, but he is a damn captain-level material. In Shikai he would have been taken out instantly. And you gave perfect example. You saw the difference in power of Byakuya and Renji? HUGE. In Shikai, uncomparable. And guess what? Matsumoto doesn't have bankai, she barely has shikai and she can't bring herself to get bankai and become a captain for 20 years now. Tousen vs Hisagi never happened. It was Komamura and Hisagi vs Tousen, who discarded his other senses for sight and power, thus being easy target for 2v1.

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    Re: Bleach Tournament Semi Finals: Team 1 vs Team 5

    Result

    Team 1 (Soifon, Tessai Tsukabishi, Riruka Dokugamine) : 7
    Team 5 (Byakuya Kuchiki, Hachigen Ushōda, Rangiku Matsumoto) : 10

    Team 5 advances to the final.

    You can discuss the results in Bleach Tournament Discussion Thread.

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