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Thread: A theory on Titans in the Walls (Spoilers)

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    Re: A theory on Titans in the Walls (Spoilers)

    If there was a jagged edge poking out of the crystal Annie hastily surrounded herself with, that small part of it could have been structurally weak enough to break apart from the rest. I don't think she was taking her time and making the most perfect cocoon she could for herself, you know?

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    Re: A theory on Titans in the Walls (Spoilers)

    I wonder if Annie can break out of her own crystal.

    Because if so, they're defenses aren't the going to stop her. I wonder if she becomes like the Titans in wall being dormat and all that, or if she is conscious

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    Re: A theory on Titans in the Walls (Spoilers)

    Hmm. I don't know if she can do it herself, or if only other titans can. Maybe exposure to sunlight makes a difference?

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    Re: A theory on Titans in the Walls (Spoilers)

    hm. Questions, questions that need answering.

    maybe the Scouting Corps returns to find Annie gone and the place in a wreak, or she is still there trapped, and helpless to escape, but unable to be questioned at least.

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    Re: A theory on Titans in the Walls (Spoilers)

    Thought I'd post here even though it was a point kkck raised in the other thread (Potential Leak Thread.) This concerns the number of Titans in the Walls.

    Below are a few images I hastily found on the Internet:
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    I'm going make a very rough estimate on the number of Titans inside.

    Assuming they're all filled with 50m class all standing next to each other (I trust Armin on that...!) :
    50m class is about 25 times larger than an adult human.
    One adult standing next to another takes up about 1m in length.
    So two 50m class takes up 25m in length.
    Diameter of Wall Maria = 480km, so Wall Maria Circumference ≒ 3000km
    That means 240 000 50m class Titans are inside Wall Maria ALONE. Holy Moly..................

    Wall Rose has 95 000.

    Wall Sina has 63 000.

    This is a very rough estimate, you can expect 25%~50% error depending on how spread they're standing. But even with 50% less, it doesn't matter --- I don't think I've ever said "it doesn't matter" and actually mean it with all my heart in my life, ever.

    Oh aaaand by the way, I have NOT included the Protruding Walls (such as Trost.) A very rough guesstimate from the picture would be about 3 x 50 000, with is 150 000. But the picture specifically states it's not drawn to scale, so I'll just leave this out.

    The total number of Wall Titans ≒ 398 000 (~400 000, which is ~half a million, without the Protruding Districts.)

    Population of Tokyo is about 13 million. Population of London (UK) is about 8 mil. Cape Town is about 3 mil. Baghdad, St Petersburg, Singapore, and Santiago each have 5 mil.

    Keep in mind, as far as we know, the current setting of SnK is relatively 'old' and 'undeveloped,' meaning cities are usually less dense and less populated.

    Population of London (England) in the 18th Century: 750 000 (source: http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/stati...-of-london.jsp)
    Bear in mind, London is a capital city.

    Meaning, half a million = population of one whole city (small, half of London of the 18th Century)

    Quarter of a million = population of one smaller city (or a town maybe? in case there's a 100% error in my estimation.)



    Anyways, this is only based on the assumption that the Walls are ALL FILLED with 50m class.
    Last edited by Utsune; August 15, 2013 at 04:16 PM. Reason: Added more references

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    Re: A theory on Titans in the Walls (Spoilers)

    Very interesting! One little thing: the estimates on titans in the three walls adds up to ~398,000 + the ~150,000 for the protruding areas.

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    Re: A theory on Titans in the Walls (Spoilers)

    Half a million 50m titans?
    Well, time to bring on the final solution:
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    "The universe has many horrors yet to throw at us. This is not the end of our struggle. This is just the beginning of our crusade to save Humanity. Be faithful! Be strong! Be vigilant!"

    -Emperor of Mankind.


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    Re: A theory on Titans in the Walls (Spoilers)

    Quote Originally Posted by kannazuki View Post
    Very interesting! One little thing: the estimates on titans in the three walls adds up to ~398,000 + the ~150,000 for the protruding areas.
    Lololol Whoops, changed it now.

    Still doesn't change the seriousness of the situation (what Armin probably knows 'cos he's so witty,) which is what makes this even more scary.........

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    Oh my word XD We really need that to kill them all off....... probably still wouldn't be enough...

    ---------- Post added at 10:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:02 PM ----------

    Just a slight update, added population reference to London (England) of the 18th Century, which is a capital city (pop~ 750 000, so pop of Titan = half of 18th Century London)

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    Re: A theory on Titans in the Walls (Spoilers)

    Why iyo they need to kill them? They are standing the walls and protect humanity from the "outworld", probably they are the "good guys" and maybe a population sacrificed to save the humanity itself.

    However I hope this will lead NOT to an Isayama big plot hole, he's japanese, he's intelligent, maybe a genious and he planned this walls story very carefully.

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    Re: A theory on Titans in the Walls (Spoilers)

    Ah teioh, funny you should mention, "Why kill them? " It's a good point, you've made me think about the contradiction/irony Armin talks about at a deeper level (probably what Armin originally intends to suggest.)

    Do we kill them? They're man-eating Titans(!) But they're also protecting the people.
    What if you tell the civilians within the Walls? How will they react? What will they do? How will they feel? Put yourself in their place for a second:
    If you're just a normal person living within the Walls, then suddenly they tell you all the Walls have massive Titans in them, what would you do? How would you feel?

    I don't think a mass suicide is out of question, and I don't think there won't be sly people trying to use this havoc to loot and commit other crimes.
    Basically, it will be a mess, humanity within the Walls will eventually destroy themselves, very quickly.

    Of course, the Wall Cult sees this. This by itself is good intention, but no doubt the Wall Cult is hiding many other things so I wouldn't give them credit just yet.


    And also, the reason I calculate the number of Titans in the Walls is because I want to raise these points:
    1) Did somebody convert a whole town/small city into 50m class Titans? (Are they forced? like they are in FMA lol when they all get transformed into something they don't want to be over one night. OR are they all desiring the same thing, to protect a specific group of people? OR are they just slaves/poor people doing what they're told?)
    2) So they're able to correctly transform into the type of Titan that they want? (Different methods transform you into different types of Titan? Or can you freely access whichever size you want?)


    Food for thought!

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    Re: A theory on Titans in the Walls (Spoilers)

    well poop. Sucks for humanity within the walls at any rate.

    Honestly, until further information is release: Don't let the system fail, don't let the system fail!

    pretty grim/

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    Re: A theory on Titans in the Walls (Spoilers)

    I can't bother to find the manga page right now, but did anyone notice how the Wall Cultists were standing during their session (prayer?) before Annie's female titan fell on their church and killed them all? As I remember, humans were standing in a circle (to represent the wall) and they interlocked their arms as if they were parts of a chain link. I wonder if this represents what the pose of the Colossal titans in the walls is?

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    Re: A theory on Titans in the Walls (Spoilers)

    Quote Originally Posted by Utsune View Post
    Below are a few images I hastily found on the Internet:
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    *Manga readers only*:
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    "Do you really think...this world has a future?"

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    Re: A theory on Titans in the Walls (Spoilers)

    Quote Originally Posted by SarcasticIndeed View Post
    I can't bother to find the manga page right now, but did anyone notice how the Wall Cultists were standing during their session (prayer?) before Annie's female titan fell on their church and killed them all? As I remember, humans were standing in a circle (to represent the wall) and they interlocked their arms as if they were parts of a chain link. I wonder if this represents what the pose of the Colossal titans in the walls is?
    Found it: http://www.mangareader.net/shingeki-no-kyojin/33/5 We can see the cultists' hands are interlocked.

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    Re: A theory on Titans in the Walls (Spoilers)

    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Coa View Post
    Buy buy Titans....
    Do you wrote it on purpose or did you want to mean "bye bye"? I ask you because it happens a lot of times with me, almost everytime I want to say "unless" I write "at least", ; same with "realize", I change it to "release", I usually edit my post a lot because of fail grammar . My point is I guess english is not your main language (me too btw) ... .
    "Do you really think...this world has a future?"

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