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Translations: Bleach 595 (2)
I can't imagine just how 20 titans could have possibly built the walls. The walls were already proven to cover a territory as large as country which means the 3 walls extent for thousands of kms.
Crazy thought, what if there is one titan between each pillar in the wall?
That's actually more along the lines of how I originally envisioned it...
You can ignore both the protruding and the waive along the wall while still get reasonable approximation.
The thing's not exactly standing behind the 'pillar' bit, nor is it in the centre of the 'space.' It looks more like you could have 1.5 for each 'pillar.'
And also on a different note, (with regards to the composition of the wall) there's this bit:
(1) There're no 'layering' (and hence coating) in the composition of the Wall, as it appears.
(2) Its face is kinda stuck to the Wall, as if it just stood there for its concrete bath during the Wall construction.
Not sure what these could suggest. Just putting out there
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just want to say a few things...
it has always bothered me why they built a round wall/s...I think that the walls aren't loaded with titans but rather staggered about the terrain.which forced a circle design instead of the normal easier to build square/rectangle shaped wall/s....
as far as how/what happened to these titans...maybe it was a natural occurance,like maybe an extended eclipse,volcanic ash blocking the sun,etc,etc...
this maybe a good explaination of why the walls are symbolic to the religion of the cult...they may have seen this freezing/paralysis/idle state of the titans and perceived it as "god's doing"....
also,the horses...I believe 100/80/60/etc yrs of training/feeding their breed of horse...I could see those breeds evolving into a more durable swiftier breed in that time.hell,even in just a couple of generations of breeding...I don't know horses but I know dogs.within 3/4/5 litters with various mates/couples I could pull out some very dominate traits in the dogs that I want in my breed...long story short,same with the horses....
Last edited by gnut; October 12, 2013 at 06:36 AM.
Sorry for my english. >.>
Is known that the walls got prepared many years before human own it, before titan appearance.
My theory: isn't man made. Not humans made it, titan civilization do it and lived there before humanity.
So, a titan faction(maybe shifters) lived, leave it for some reason, left for humanity.
The wall crystal isn't visible. The outer visible layer is just plain cement or similar. The crystalline material would form a solid barrier underneath, fusing titan to titan presumably along the entire length of the wall.
The wall seems to be homogeneous all the way through. I guess it could be stronger in the center-most point but every time we've seen a titan's hardening ability, there is no gradient between hardnesses. I get what you mean, but it seems more feasible to me that properly ordered titans can create material out of many thickness/densities, rather than all the titans standing still and only being joined by the hands or something as they're very, very, very, very, very, very slowly covered in perfectly sculpted concrete. Remember what Armin said about there never being renovation done on the walls and how there's no inner workings, just titans. Concrete doesn't do that on its own (or anything else).
Last edited by badluckartist; October 12, 2013 at 11:34 AM.
Just to make sure we're on the same page, the way I view it is consistent with that image. All that's cracked and crumbled there is just the regular concrete (or whatever). On the *inside*, what I imagine is titans frozen like... well... clear crystal popsicles.
I'm wondering if there is more to Bertholdts Titan form than it seems when I think about Titans within the wall.
Colossal Titans inside the Walls.
Each time Bertholdt transformed was when in contact with a Wall.
Shifter civilization(species numbers in maybe thousands,are in a way immortal and unable to reproduce) encounters human civilization (numbers in millions, can reproduce) a war breaks out becuase of humans natural fear to titans becuase of their size abilities etc
shifters are almost wiped out in war to extinction so they retreat to an area undiscovered by humans and regroup and recouperate, building the current city our characters are in
select titans aka guardians are chosen to speed up building of walls for this haven for shifters
somewhere down the line like you guys said , shifters are displaced out their haven by humans who win by sheer force of numbers
generations pass and titans and the war of the past become fairytale like in status and the humans stay within walls
meanwhile the shifters that survived (willing to bet erens dad is one of the original ones, helped hatch a plot to retake haven and get revenge on humans as well as find a way for titans to reproduce) begin research on how to bolster thier numbers
erens dad integrates himself into current human society gathering intel on humans, has a family and kids (possibly as cover) realizes eren has potential as a hybrid and is the key since he is a hybrid offspring titan/human to making and reproducing titans, which would explain the serum he injects eren with maybe it was a catalyst that reacts with erens blood that his father developed. and would also explain the current happenings of why eren was able to make the other titans do what they did since he would be the source basically.
(sorry for the rambling havent slept in 2 days , but thats what came to me after reading the chapter and these comments)
The only thing about these theories is that I don't understand how the shifters would be beaten by regular humans if the best thing they had in the past were good cannons. The only way I can see this working is if the mindless titans were originally created by regular humans in order to attack Warriors/shifters (which would be awful because they'd essentially be sacrificing people to "die" ...until they could eat a shifter I guess, if it does in fact turn out that eating shifters will bring them back to consciousness). But in that case, the power would have been stolen by the Warriors from the humans at some point (or perhaps duplicated, while destroying the humans' version), and not be originally theirs.