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,I believe Kirin is moot here. It's not a senjutsu technique and if Susanoo tanked it, I don't see Juubito not doing the same, even more easily as we saw him tanked the recent attacks so far.
,Plus it takes quite preparation with the need of the essential stormy conditions.
It's not senjutsu but it is natural energy, the jutsu is the directing of the lightning not the lightning itself..susanoo has nvr shown senjutsu to be it's weak point. We will get clouds when they nuke the ocean next chapter. At least it is a worthy prediction..Senjutsu makes regular jutsu effective because of the natural energy..the mental and physical just give shape and manipulation..I think it works. And enton makes it that much more bad ass.
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The only difference between Sage chakra and normal chakra is the natural energy that is combined in it. This means that the variable that is able to hurt Obito is natural energy. Senjutsu is simply the medium in which one can harness natural energy for combat. Sasuke bi-passes Senjutsu by harnessing nature directly.
Sasuke's Kirin is a unique attack, there is no attack like it in the manga. Frankly speaking, he may simply modify Kirin to make it a senjutsu like attack. We already know Sasuke's body can handle natural energy. And he already knows how to make Kirin. That means all he needs to do is balance his own chakra with a lightning strike to make a "Senjutsu Kirin".
And while Sasuke alone doesn't have the chakra necessary to equal the output of power from Kirin, if he is supercharged by Naruto he should have enough.
As for the stormy conditions, I see no reason why one of the greatest Suiton users shouldn't be capable of increasing the moisture in the atmosphere as to create rain clouds, that once heated up by Amaterasu become thunder clouds capable of being harnessed by Sasuke.
I've never hate shikamaru just because he was called by some girl that he possess something that fit to be a hokage. I just blamed him for what he did. That's all. His plan to wait for an opportunity to change the future is kinda nonsense and ridiculous. Seeing how powerful madara and hashirama's attack, the alliance was still waiting, not for an opportunity, but to madara's susanoo's swords slash.
Overall, the reason why the alliance are inside of that barrier right now waiting to be hit by 4 bijuudamas is shikamaru.
He still has kage-level wisdom and intellect, even if he doesn't have the power to personally follow up 1vs1 by his role. Tsunade isn't much better off in that regard.
Shikamaru did all he could do with his resources.
As for them all being in the barrier because of Shikamaru, you're right, but that is irrelevant. Want to know why? Because this is the last battle there is going to be. The WORLD is on the line. If these shinobi fail, their is no retreat and fight another day. If they fail, the word goes into a genjutsu and it's game the fuck over.
So frankly, the alliance needs to throw everything they have at Obito NOW to stop him. All those ninja wouldn't be any use if they retreated and just let the big boys fight. In case you forgot it was Neji's sacrifice that saved Naruto which allowed him to continue fighting. However small the contribution the lesser shinobi give, every little bit will help.
Again though, I see this as the thing to finish him off, not something to just be used to damage him since it's a one shot technique and all.
And you do realize that the waiting for an opportunity trick has allowed the alliance to save Naruto twice now, right? If they took your advice, Naruto would have been killed and Akatsuki would have won by now. Several time they have been able to make a difference, no reason for them to not try again.
Okay, so, where the heck is Tenzou?? Someone needs to rescue him or something because I like him and this is getting boring. Oh, and uh, Orochimaru needs to show up and show us why he deserves to be alive right now. <___<
But then, you know, pretty much everything that isn't happening right now, should be happening right now.
,I see it giving real damage but for me not enough to kill and one-shot Juubito granting it hits. It's a one-shot technique because it's limited to one shot only, not that it's a guarantee for one-shot kill whatever the adversary is.
Shikaku told shikamaru when nagato attacked the konoha, i qoute '' the best thing they can do right now to help naruto is to stay AWAY from the battlefield.''
Madara and obito didn't care to their life at all. And their jutsu are too powerful and a long range jutsu.
Instead of focusing to madara's defeat, hashirama need to think about the well-being of the alliance who was in a range to their jutsu.
And now, obito wants to clean up the battlefield, the alliance who was in his range would be annihilated. Shikamaru just made obito's job with ease. After all, obito wants to kill the entire alliance, while shikamaru just made them to stay in place where obito would just easily kikc their butts.
And I am aware it's not a guaranteed one shot kill, but given it's scope and epicness I'd think it'd be anti-climatic for it to be used a second time and not kill the intended target. It's like FRS or Amaterasu that have become spammed techniques, it is a jutsu that has been used a total of 1 time in the entire manga.
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You quote Shikaku, but another wise shinobi in Itachi once said to Naruto that you can't shoulder the burden alone. The alliance has had Naruto's back on several occasions, not only saving him but helping to damage the enemy. They aren't useless fodder that need to be protected. They are the one's doing the protecting, as in protecting the planet.
There is no use in running because if they fail here (and I am repeating myself) the world ends. You need to understand that concept.
As for Shikamaru making Obito's job easy, you have to be shitting me. The Biju bombs are capable of hitting things hundreds if not thousands of miles away. There is no safe place. The significance of the barrier is to take everyone out in one shot. But even without it Obito could eliminate the majority of the players on the battlefield.
No. What hinata did is entirely not the same. she's In love to naruto. What she did isn't all about the konoha or to defeat tendo pain. She was there because naruto was in pain and to confess her love while sacrifcing her life. She's blinded by her love, that's all.
every technique used by Obito is not simply already known due to his status as a Jinchuriki, of course I'm aware that some techniques come with the status.
Last edited by KiSwordsman; August 20, 2013 at 11:33 PM.