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Translations: Bleach 595 (2)
No it was not, he clearly get injurezd like an edo tensei body would be :
Hashirama was a clone, but Tobirama was the real one, and he attacked Obito with his Edo tensei body, arguing it would not be a matter if he took damages from his own attack. Moreover, why would a clone of Hashirama transform into Tobirama?
He's certainly at least on the same level combat-wise as other low-tier kage like Tsunade and Gaara's dad.
I would agree (though a bit awkward) if Tobirama happenned to be still "complete" because Obito had not reached his full form, but Hiruzen was hit the same way, so it means either hiruzen will come back, or Kishimoto made a big mistake in involving Tobirama again. Either way, this battle is becoming more and more confusing, seems like Kishimoto himself does not about Obito's powers. It would be troublesome and disappointing if so.
What implies that he's clueless of what Madara and Obito are capable of? It's not as if he attempted to have the Alliance attack them or something. Him holding them back is a pretty good indication that he is aware of the vast difference in power.
And that “disadvantage” would still be there regardless. Or have you forgotten that the Juubi's Bijuu Blast have a massive range. Even if the Alliance made a run for it, they still would be vulnerable and need protection. Not to mention, that there's nothing to suggest that Obito would have even allowed them to leave, judging from the whole barrier and all.
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I think since they were split into yin and yang, and the yin yang symbol is half black with a single dot of white while the other half is all white with a single dot of black, and the white represents good and the black represents bad that it can very simply be deduced which is which by two things.
1. well, 1 Kyuubi is Blackened/dark (Minatos) and the other is white (Narutos)
2. When the reason minato sealed the kyuubi in naruto was so he could control it, i highly doubt he would put the evil kyuubi inside of him wouldn't make sense, and im sure he knows which of yin/yang to place into him.
Thing is yea there are a lot of things that narutos kyuubi "said" that could be represented as evil etc. but we all know the dozens of times the kyuubi saved his life, the first time they met kurama even gave him chakra for coming to him. doesn't seem so bad imo. Besides if narutos kurama really was evil he woulda just let naruto die then he would've been revived in time etc.
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Well we still have multiple unseen forces
hiruzen (he could be dead but that'd be kinda fucked up no?)
bee (could assume hes in the barrier too but you'd think he could help with the bijuu dama just as naruto and minato could unless its a hiraishin plan)
orochimaru suigetsu and karin
also wtf guys what is juugo doing the master man of sage jutsu and isn't even bothering with obito.
http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/643/14 is this the real sentence? that is, does obito really mention rin's death? in the spoiler pics and summaries thread they said it was a mistake, in which he didn't mention rin at all.
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dont agree personally, hiruzen has always been my least favorite kage, out of all the villages and all kages we know he was exceptionally uninteresting in comparison to all.
he got a chance to reshow his value in this battle and the only thing hes done in over 15 Chapters is a shuriken jutsu and is presumed dead, hiruzen fans should move on.
we only have comments of other characters to use as praise for him, im just looking at individual abilities. you could rebutt WELL HE HASN'T USED ALL HIS JUTSUS YET, as long as he doesn't use them his character remains half-baked.
Last edited by Greasybuttsex; August 18, 2013 at 11:36 AM.
this zetsu power ups make me think they are a too great risk for such little gain. they are just fodder but when absorbed makes your enemy much more dangerous?
and where is yamato?
and lets not forget anko and kabuto
So guys, can't anyone tell me why Tobirama resurrected and Hiruzen did not?
but,we don't have to go by oro's words...just look at his actions.we have never seen oro back down from a battle(against 2 seinen,naruto in kyubi mode,even itachi whom he had lost to 2 prior times).but,hiruzen bust into his hideout and what does oro do....RUN LIKE HELL.
so,hiruzen may not have the flashest style....that's no reason to say he weak and can be dismissed.i agree,so far this fight he has been jobbed...lets wait til after the battle is over before we proclaim him "the most useless kage ever"
http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/638/19 http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/639/10 . it's just that a lot of you don't see the black waves which obito used to hit hashi's clone and tobirama.