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Translations: Gintama 515 (2)
I don't get many things said here...
Ignoring the fact that Rasengan is a jutsu because "its pure chakra". Nonsense in my book.
Comparing Rasengan to Sharingan. Nonsense in my book. If you feel like comparing Sharingan to something try SM or CM.
Not the only thing i agree with is the fact that Naruto should not be bashed for spamming Rasengan and variations of his jutsu. Its no different then Hashirama spaming Mokuton variations (even if Hashirama can achive so much more with his). My problem would be if Naruto would have a great jutsu like FRS and he would NOT be spamming it even if he can... Why would you do a Naruto Rendan (did i spell this right? so long ago) when he can trow a FRS at that guy? Yes makes no sense right? If Naruto got a more powerful ability then he is going to use that one.
What? Are you serious? Curent Naruto would stomp all over Deidara.. He has HUGE long range jutsus that can anihilate entire mountains... His speed alone would global Deidara before he can even jump on his bird... Of course assuming Kishi would allow Naruto to do that... Sasuke could have killed Deidara even back then with his speed and that speed is nothing to curent Naruto (before Deidara got on his bird).Quote:
Now something else i don't get... Chidori sword is close range attack (sword range).. Its just abit longer then a rasengan? I really don't get it. How is that better then Rasengan? Well it does have a bigger range but its damn small...
Then the last thing that i whant to mention is why are you making a list of long/medium range jutsus from other caracters?
You are stating Naruto can't hit Deidara with Rasengan but others can use ranged attacks to do so? So are we LIMITING Naruto to only a melee range move aka 1 jutsu out of all he has? WTF? Kakashi can Kamui Deidara out of the sky and Naruto can trow a bijudama half of Konoha in size to obliterate Deidara and that mountain chain behing him. Naruto can't hit Deidara on his bird with a Rasengan (assuming he does not pull some type of trick) and Kakashi can't hit him with Raikiri.. That is a logical comparison... What you said... Can't find the logic in it.
If its in JMan's hair range and is slow enough not to dodge that then Naruto can probably hit him with a FRS(the one you can trow)...
Last edited by xXan; August 14, 2013 at 08:00 AM.
I don't see how other jutsut compare to Narutos rasengan. Which other technique has chakra void of elemental influense?
,And he doesn't use these things anymore with FRS, SM, CM,and KM around...Moot compared to his current arsenal...
You mean raw chakra? Just about anything Neji and his clan do... Kakashi's/Tobi's Kamui, bijudama, genjutsu, Susano and so on, the list is somewhat long lol.
The point is characters in the manga spam some technique, style, jutsu, whatever. And honestly spam is a degrading term for it, it's their style. Naruto style focuses on his rasengan sasukes on his Sharingan hashirama on his woodstyle.
There is no point in defending Naruto, rasengans are a part of his style and people just dot like it. It's fair if you don't like the particular style but it has worked for him same as wood style works for hashirama and the uchihas most effective fighting style is to focus on their Sharingan
I wonder why spamming chakra is a bad thing. Chakra is the most important thing for battle anyway so why not use it extensively? Naruto has a lot of it and he uses his chakra for powerhouse moves. He's that type of character. Leave him the fuck be. People need to stop picturing their point of view as the correct one.
Because a Naruto rendan can do more damage than an FRS, which can be dodged. Naruto using more powerful ability constantly is stupid, but because this is shounen, he gets away with it with a victory. Less is more... at least it used to be in Part I.
No, he has one long ranged jutsu that can be dodged. Deva dodged it, Animal was able to dodge it by being thrown, the Third Raikage dodged it, and Kakuzu was able to prevent being hit by it (not sure if it was because Naruto didn't get there in time or because Kakuzu delayed Naruto long enough that he lost control). If Deidara was able to react to Sasuke's speed, Naruto's speed shouldn't be a major issue. I also don't see current Naruto being able to do anything unless he can find a way to fly.Quote:
Chidori sword or nagashi (?) is a mid range attack. Deidara was able to get out of the way by flying higher, but Sasuke managed to cut off Hachibi's tail from afar. I'm not talking about the sword infused with chidori, but I don't know the proper name for that chidori shaped into a sword or beam that Sasuke used against Deidara and Bee.
... to show their versatility and how they can handle different situations. Sasuke, Kakashi, and Jiraiya can go close range, mid range, and likely long range.Quote:
HOw am I limiting Naruto to one jutsu? What other mid or long ranged jutsu does he have apart from FRS that will help? I'm not counting Kyuubi mode, and bijuu dama can be dodged anyway.
But Kakashi can hit him with a Kamui, while Naruto would have to throw a FRS and hope Deidara doesn't move out of its expansion range. Hell, if we take Kakashi's moniker as true, then he has other ways to hit Deidara from afar. Naruto at best, has two jutsu - bijuu dama and FRS.
He should, as they can be pretty useful. Uzumaki Naruto barrage would do a great job of taking out Hungry Ghost's ability rather than any chakra attack.Quote:
It may have worked for him, but Naruto is much better off adding to his arsenal and being more versatile and able to deal with different situations. As it stands, he can only run at people and hit them, or use FRS if he's in either mode but base. It's just luck that he's won most of his fights in Part II.Quote:
The Uchiha don't focus on their Sharingan though, they focus on other stuff. Itachi and Sasuke honed their taijutsu, weapon usage, ninjutsu, and even genjutsu. Neji honed his taijutsu and kekkei genkai jutsu along with Byakugan. If the Uchiha only focused on their Sharingan, Sasuke wouldn't be as good as he is.
Last edited by Sanadan; August 14, 2013 at 12:37 PM.
I don't think a lot of people care about the Hyuuga as much as they do Naruto and Sasuke. The irony here though is that a lot of people have complained about Sasuke spamming Susano'o, but many defend Naruto spamming bunshins and rasengan.
I'd say its Naruto who should stop bashing people with his chakra and do something else for a change... but thats just me of course ;pQuote:
Naruto does do other tings. I don't mind him using the rasengan as much as he is, what I want is more things on the side to spice things up. Keeping the basic techniques that work along with that is only smart tactics.