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Translations: Gintama 507 (2)
It's not a bad thing. That's not the real argument though. The argument is that his reliance on such a limited technique as Rasengan shows that he isn't versatile and that limits his effectiveness in battle. narutotheory however seems to think we're complaining about it for a different reason. We're not.Originally Posted by Exodi
It isn't. No one has said this. Spamming Rasengan however, is.Originally Posted by Roman
It's because you brought Sasuke up as an example intentionally to upset people. You knew for a fact that you couldn't make a case for Naruto being limited to such basic attack, so rather than defend him you attempted to throw Sasuke in the situation instead.Originally Posted by Naruto2011
Spam is a realistic interpretation of a fighting style. If your fighting style revolves around one attack used over and over throughout the fight, then you're spamming. It's different if you use one attack that has an extended period of time throughout it's usage. That's not spamming, because you only use the attack 2 or 3 times over 5 minute intervals.Quote:
When Sasuke made 12 consecutive Enton Magatama? That was spamming, because it was repetitive usage of the same attack. That's what Naruto does with his Rasengan. It's just worse with Rasengan because it has no practical uses outside of "hit the opponent at close range and make it hurt". It has all the versatility of a basic punch.
Being a part of his style doesn't change the fact that it's spamming.Quote:
And here's the reason why that's a horrible argument:Quote:
Sharingan gives Sasuke about 1000 different abilities, so even when using it, he isn't limited to just "hitting the opponent at close range". Naruto using Rasengan however, only has one realistic offensive option: get close, and hit the opponent. No ranged option (Sasuke has Susanoo arrows and Amaterasu) no defensive options (Sasuke has Susanoo and Enton walls) no supplementary use (Sasuke's Enton becomes plentiful)
Long story short, just stop.
Last edited by ninjabot; August 14, 2013 at 02:49 PM.
People who don't like Naruto's style of fighting will naturally say that he's "spamming" jutsu. In that sense, yeah, but he's a brute powerhouse and he doesn't need to be "versatile" or have an alphabetic arsenal of techniques at his disposal. He's just fine as he is because that's his character. His Rasengan drove him to many heights and will continue to do so. A good ol' Rasengan just hurt Obito so it's okay to spam it. Sasuke's versatility doesn't really help much in this situation so still attacking Naruto's style is kinda pointless. So yeah, everyone should just stop. It's just a matter of perspective and liking.
Lol oh man uchiha fans get fiesty once you bring up their golden boy
I'm not even going to respond to all of it because I'm to lazy
But pretty much what roman said, people who don't like naruto will bring down at how he spams rasengan, but you know he's so ridiculously strong at this point that it doesn't matter because he's a huge powerhouse
I wrestled in highschool and perfected a move perfectly till I could do it flawlessly, did I so called spam it, yes if you wanna call it that but it was a part of my style and it was effective, and none of my opponents made a fuss over my so called spam of the move because they knew if I set it up they were going down
But they can learn more jutsu. Sasuke learned variants of chidori and has some katon jutsu under his belt. Kakashi has reportedly copied at least one thousand jutsu, and he has continuously shown new jutsu one way or another. Naruto's main arsenal is kage bunshin and rasengan. An S-rank jutsu means nothing if it doesn't hit or work the way it's supposed to.
Sage Mode rasengan though. Naruto can do more damage and protect better if he knew more jutsu, whether it's defensive jutsu or offensive. Sasuke's versatility can actually help because he can find different ways to get past the black balls and attack or help defend.
I am baffled his bait and switch redundant moves always work.
Also Susanoo is a way to not get hurt while fighting, it's not possible to compare it to a axe vs a knife. If you are on a mission to kill some one for example and the oponent it weaker, why not take the safest rout, they might have a trick you didn't know about.
Nagato thought similarly; he used shou shinra tensei. As result, Deva couldn't use its power for a long time, and Nagato was lower on chakra, leadin to his loss. Why waste chakra using Susano'o when something else can work just as well? If I recall, only Sasuke's Susano'o has been shown to have a very fast attack.
I don't see how it's not possible to compare it to an axe vs. knife. An axe is a surefire way to cut butter, like Susano'o is, but there could be serious consequences like blindness or lower chakra. A butter knife can get the job done just as well with less ramifications, like no cutting through whatever's holding the butter.
Sasuke opened his fight against Danzou with Susano'o, but it didn't hurt Danzou. Susano'o isn't always the safest, and rasengan/kage bunshin is less so.
If any character has the chakra reserves, let the spam. God dam it, it'll give us more manga chapters to read because of all that extra energy they have.
,Yeah it was cool. And he had enough cleverness in that fight specifically as to clone utilization. Took out individual paths one by one and managed to get Tendo. Point is, he still hit Deva despite the fact that he’s limited to close range (he impressively thought of letting his clones throw him and took advantage of the jutsu interval), and withstood the effect of shinra tensei with his supporting tajuu clones.
The good deal is hitting and beating the opponent, even if the odds are blowing and the range option is limited. That’s impressive. Point again is, he managed to get Kakuzu with the help of clone diversion.
,How he utilize his clone is clearly more versatile in Part II.
,With SM his taijutsu skills are far more superior and versatile.
,No need for rasengan and barrage for that. He did stomp him in Sage Mode using Frog Kata.Quote:
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The Rasengan is to Naruto what the Chidori is to Sasuke.
The difference is one is much easier to manipulate and the other is simply a spiralling ball. The usage is similar. Sasuke can use his Chidori to paralyze, pierce and infuze it onto a weapon while Naruto can create gaping holes into opponents, infuze his Rasengan with his own element (which then slices or can be used as a spiraling vortex) and use it to compliment his own fighting style.
Would it be nice to see Naruto use a Fuuton Jutsu that is not related to the Rasengan? Yes. His versatility depends on how you see it.
I think it's a matter of convenience that's why Naruto's using the rasengan all the time. It's the strongest attack he has which is basically rooted to the beast bomb. nonetheless, it shows his lack of versatility as most people have pointed out here. But I don't think there's necessarily anything wrong with that. He has an enormous amount of chakra pool, with the kyuubi to boot, plus the senjutsu on top. If you think about it, he's basically the embodiment of the younger son of the Sage of the Six Paths.
True, it would be amazing if he knew how to use some amazing jutsu and make Madara wet his pants. But think of it like this, he's making most of what he knows at the moment, which is the rasengan. Spamming rasengan? yes, but we're at a point in the manga where making up jutsu is not the most practical thing to do. Who knows what he can do when he is finally able to make his own jutsu.
What about combing more attacks. 1000 Shadow Clone + Sexy Jutsu + Giant Rasengans. Sweet