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Translations: Gintama 515 (2)
is it more symbolic than anything? or was shanks overwelming strength not planned at that point by oda?
this is what i mean
we all saw how rayliegh dominated any seaking or whatever that swam after him as he swam to amazon lily
one could only assume that shanks' haki mastery is somewhere in the ballpark of rayleighs or maybe even greater due to the dark kngs advanced age
and we all heard edward newgate say "when a man of your caliber retrns from east blue without an arm it makes us wonder" or something like that
so why did shanks lose his arm while saving luffy? was there no other way for him to pull off that rescue with his advances haki mastery and stregnth?
or was haki not even part of the plan back then?
i think atleast the conqueror haki was planned... the other shit like hardening... no.Quote:
im just trying to figure out how shanks could lose his arm in that situation being the total badass that he is....
whitebeard said it best.....
In hindsight, yeah it's kinda strange. But looking at the page now, Luffy was practically in the Sea Kings mouth when Shanks snatched him up so maybe Shanks didn't think about armament, he was just thinking about Luffy's safety. Or maybe it is just the fact that haki wasn't as thought out as it is now. Wasn't One Piece supposed to be a lot shorter than it is?
Maybe Shanks didn't have enough time to save luffy with the hardening. It might have been reacting to instinct.
It's symbolic, as we learn later on. I think it's to show that Shanks had faith in Luffy and thought of him as highly important, as well as possible successor to Roger. Shanks always mentions "a kid who reminds me of what Roger used to say" whenever someone asks what happened to his arm or where the strawhat went.
Plus, chances are that Shanks didn't learn haki at the time, no? He wasn't part of the Four Emperors, if I recall/assume and was still green.
shanks DID use the conqueror's haki on the sea king. but that was only after it had taken his arm. this is probably due to luffy practically being in the sea king's mouth at that point.
....I think the sole reason he lost his arm was to advance the plot, in terms of Shank's faith in the new age and those who would be a part of it...I feel he prioritized saving Luffy over his own safety and as Oda himself mentioned losing an arm did not diminish his strength in any way....Shanks still had his scar from blackbeard at his time so I do not think he was green at all drawing from his conversation with whitebeard...while he may or may not have been a Yonkou he was definitely a great pirate still
I'm quiet sure Oda didn't think about bodies turning black when he conceptualized the plot, especially since he was planing for a "short" series to begin with.
Last edited by Schabrak; August 22, 2013 at 09:28 AM.
yeah, hard to predict how your story will goes more than 3 times longer than you had originally planned
You have to realize that Shanks is forty years old, going ten years back for him isn't a big difference at all.