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Translations: Gintama 515 (2)
Edit: I took the liberty of correcting your mistake (you wrote the first kind twice) hope you dont mind.
Last edited by TheLuffySmile; August 24, 2013 at 04:32 PM.
I think the reason why the new world is so powerful is because there will be a lot of logia type, and Haki is the only counter to that, and it's suppose to be the land of monster, so it's like haki is something everyone have, so it wont exactly be a problem. It's just who has the stronger haki
what i say is modern snipers, do everything for you and you just have to pull a trigger, the freaking sniper almost aims itself
while bow on the other hand, you have to do everything
same with some fruits
you blast lethal elemental stuff on the other person...i mean how hard can it be?
Depending on the enemy from as easy as blowing air to as hard as the immovable shield. Do you honestly believe Ace, Sakazuki, Kuzan and Borsalino were as good as they were on the first day of using their fruits? The previous admiral trio were massively experienced marine officers with powerful haki, while Ace did aim for top in the NW himself, even if that was to help his dad Newgate. They did train, test things out, created techniques on their own, it's not as easy as you make it seem. Yeah using such an offensive ability may not be hard, but controling and shaping it will have been no walk in the park. Not gonna say that some aren't overpowered to begin with.
ofc the personal effort goes in the equation
but some fruits are lethal to begin with
example in previous convo, i said about earthquake fruit, and i got countered cause BB was damaging his own crew with the earthquakes
well, since, he unleashed the firepower of the fruit in minutes
ofc those people with their fighting spirit and clever mind find more delicate attacks
but in the end an avalanche of magna/ice or a rain of lightning/lasers is lethal, no matter how you look at it
What on earth makes you think it was easy for Kizaru to perform a Raining Light beams, Light Saber, Free movement at the Speed of Light??
It is implied Kizaru has had his fruit for a similar amount of time that Sakazuki and Aokiji did, so he is likely to have had it for over 2 decades.
That alone tells you that the Light fruit is extremely hard to fine-tune and master.
I'm pretty sure if a random guy ate the Light fruit like Jango or Mr.9, they WOULD NOT be able to send light-kicks that cause massive explosions all whilst half-asleep.
Sure its a Hack fruit, but it is by no means easy to use.
Blackbeard has been studying how to use the Darkness fruit for a decade, so that's the only reason why he was able to use his quickly.
Do you think it didn't take any Creativity for Kizaru to focus his light energy into a beam that could reflect across mirrors neatly to help him practically teleport away?
Capone Bege's Fruit is unbelievably hack, yet his bounty was only 138mil.
Hack fruits don't ruin any balance in the series since Foxy has the Nero Nero beam which slows down time for 30 seconds.
Foxy sucks and is pathetic.
If we gave Zoro the fruit which can slow his enemies down by 30secs, then we have what is a borderline Admiral at a minimum on our hands.
This means that despite their Hack fruit, it is OBVIOUSLY difficult to be able to create a rain of Light, Magma or Ice since this is one of the best moves of people who have had the fruit for 2 decades
Law is the only young person with a ridiculously hack fruit, and he has had to train hard to get the fruit to this level.
I think haki was the best shit oda come up it...cause luffy was never be able to hit smoker. And logia was soo overpower. Noting could hit then. But they could hit you. I mean oda would not make scuses about a logia user get hit and get beat..croco and enel...but dont worry cause logia also got haki. Cause if they dont. They would not be able to hit other logia user
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haki power makes sence and does not need to have any restrictions. Just think of the world of one piece as 3 stages: the first one is the 4 oceans, here you don't see many fruit users yet alone haki users, all the strong guys head for the second stage, the Grand line (first half). This is the place for ruthless pirates to make a name for themselves and most of them are DF users. And finally you have the new world where only a selected few can survive, and haki is a must, which means that from now on emphasis will be on haki rather than fruits power alone. It also means that now only logia users with haki could survive (as demonstrated with caribou who got his ass handed to him by pekoms).
I think a big part of the issue here is that basically anyone who has taken mastery of haki to a certain level will invariably be extremely strong. As only a hax character would be able to truly master haki it would naturally seem unfair to those with weaker or no haki. So luffy for instance would seem to be a hax enemy against anyone without haki... However the issue here is not that haki is impossible to fight, the issue here is that haki is in most cases a characteristic of the strong. So its not that haki is unbalanced, its just that the people with it will almost invariably be exceptional.
"Breaking" the balance?! It's actually reestablishing a balance by bringing back at least a chance to beat the all-mighty logia users if one isn't lucky enough to have "natural enemy" abilities.
Haki isn't breaking the balance, it's bringing back the balance by giving normal users and inferior devil's fruit users a way to fight back against logia and paramecia. Without haki, there's almost no way to hit logia users or damage paramecia users, and even those with haki can be fought against. Luffy managed to fight and best Hancock's sisters, did he not? Despite not having haki to combat their haki.
Haki too OP, new meta. Oda please nerf!!!
jokes aside i think in the new world ppl ought to have some sort of ability to control haki.