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  • Duke Watanabe

    3 27.27%
  • Tokugawa Kazuya

    8 72.73%
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Thread: Singles - Duke vs Tokugawa

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    Re: Singles - Duke vs Tokugawa

    Quote Originally Posted by Hardy View Post
    Even if it was Hyaku Ren + Saiki Ryoma, it just isn't enough. When they arrived to the camp, the Ms guys were just amazingly weak compared to... the 3rd court guys (they actually needed upgrades to win there). Beating Nationals (without TnK) Ryoma, knowing how huge the camp is, isn't a big feat (and definetly, not bigger than being the no 3).
    Actually, beating Ryoma + Hyakku Ren + Saiki is a better feat than beating Gin.
    Although there's nothing to suggest Ryoma brought all those moves out.

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    Re: Singles - Duke vs Tokugawa

    I never said that, I said that being he No #3 is a better feat than beating Ryoma, by far.
    Last edited by Hardy; September 01, 2013 at 03:27 PM.

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    Re: Singles - Duke vs Tokugawa

    Quote Originally Posted by Airgrimes View Post
    The Ryoma that lost to Tokugawa was a joke. He wasn't shown to be using Muga.
    So that's basically a Regionals!Ryoma.
    Remember that against stronger opponents, the normal Muga loses its effectiveness. Maybe he chose not to use it because Yukimura (and for the most part even Atobe) already had no trouble with it, and he assumed Tokugawa was going to be stronger than those two.

    (I'd link the info box from the Pair Puri, but Sai's blog seems to be down right now. Gonna edit it in later if I don't forget).

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    Re: Singles - Duke vs Tokugawa

    Quote Originally Posted by Airgrimes View Post
    Hmm... This still proves zero to your point I must admit.
    The Ryoma that lost to Tokugawa was a joke. He wasn't shown to be using Muga.
    So that's basically a Regionals!Ryoma.

    I can tell you 10+ MSers who would eat Regionals!Ryoma alive.
    We didn't see the match, just a couple of ball. And more so, if Ryoma lost while not using Muga, why would he be so bitter about losing that Sanada have to baby him?

    "Like, yeah, I go easy on that guy that last match but I lost. But I'm going to be bitter anyways."

    He lost every freakin day to Nanjiroh. He also lost to Tezuka before. Hell, as far as he remember, he thought he got crush by Akaya as well. And he was going all out in those match. I think Echizen was serious and lost.

    But hey, if you do want to be serious with what we've seen strictly in manga only, Tokugawa is 10 ball, with actually strongly hint at being 11. Duke haven't confirm anything higher than 1 yet.
    Last edited by -Ken-; September 02, 2013 at 05:12 AM.
    Most of the thing I post is probably assumption if it's not a fact that I support using some evidence from the manga.

    If you knows you're on my ignore list and you quote my post, there's high chance I would ignore you. Or answer you and not look at your response.

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