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Translations: Gintama 515 (2)
This is why the Shikamaru hate parade is so pathetic. There's no fucking point in the argument. He's never gonna become Hokage so what's the point trying so damned hard to convince yourself he'd be a bad Hokage?Originally Posted by LnDRash
Just to divert your attention from shikamaru bashes and counter bashes ... before the next chapter arrives how many have guessed Sasuke is gonna use sage techniques using Juugo??
Everyone. Literally everyone.Originally Posted by Vite Zeus
That's what people assumed. He already has some of Juugo's flesh in his chest, so he should be able to naturally absorb natural energy too. It just hasn't happened yet. It could be yet another oversight from Kishi.
That powermanga link is broken
Well, if you're talking about a fodder enemies, then there's ni doubt shikamaru can easily see through such plots, but if you're talking about orochimaru or raikage or gaara or oonoki or obito's caliber, then shikamaru can't defeat that with his brilliant mind alone. He'll just keep on sacrificing the konoha-nins for simply believing that his merely strategy can harm their opponents.
You know? When shikaku's plan to restrict the juubi's movement? Damn, temari was even amazed by that, but still, shikaku's plan is merely a low level plan. He sacrificed alot of ninja's just for that. And yet t'was a failure. Whereas jiraiya's swamp alone can do more use full than that. Meaning, a low level ninja like shikamaru/shikaku can't comprehend how dangerous and awesome the bijuus/juubi really. Why? Because they're ignorant and clueless to the secrets of the ninja world.
Naruto in sage mode can sensed anyone's chakra even in miles away. And naruto doesn't need to see any plots or setup traps, he just need to extent his nine chakra arms and kick that freaking traps without being harm.
Come on, just look at sasuke and naruto's power closely, and you'll realize that shikamaru is just merely a fodder among fodders compared to that. Remember, both of them wants to become a hokage. So by adding shikamaru for the candidates is kinda ridiculous and not even funny. Shikamaru's brilliant IQ can't possibly comprehend how terrifying the perfect susanoo or amaterasu or naruto's bijuu mode really is,
The thing is, shikamaru would become a great hokage as long as the ninja system or cyle of hatred would be demolished. Meaning, there's no more ninja war or ninja mission, yupz, and with that, shikamaru's brilliant IQ would be more needed and more awesome.
Neah. We have curently people (senators, generals) that do stuff like this but the President usualy has the last say (on paper...).Quote:
Raikage was in command. Allowing Shikaku to make battle plans does not make Shikaku the leader.
You can't do everything yourself. Accepting help and surounding yourself with people that complement yourself (your weak points) is a smart thing to do.Quote:
Kishi just needs to allow Naruto to be as smart as "vs Pein" or some instances in this war. He just needs to stop using him for comic relief moments (bad ones to). I would also remind you that Naruto is also Kurama. Kurama is smart enough.
Hell in the end Shikamaru's "i feel like following him" (or watever his words were) speaks volumes for who should be the leader.
Perhaps but not going by the manga. Raikage was even elected as supreme commander (or whatever the tile was).Quote:
We are talking from the manga point of view and what makes sense by the manga.Quote:
In real life the leader should always be behind his lines giving orders as if he dies its a big hit for the army. In the manga a Kage needs to be able to deal as a front line attacker. He needs to be the first and last line of defence.
What things needs to change is hardly out choice as its Kishi's manga and appling real life logic does not work most of the time... I dare you to apply real life logic to Tobi lol... You are probably going to end up with some time of mental damage.
If its a trap that can stop curent Naruto... Shikamaru can commit senpuku as he can't do shit anyway lol. Also i would remind you that during this war Naruto found a way out of a situation that Shikamaru had no bloody clue what to do.Quote:
Naruto is not that dumb, its just kishi using him for comic relief. Also right now its not JUST Naruto... Its KURAMA and Naruto. Kurama is smart enough...
Last edited by xXan; September 25, 2013 at 01:12 AM.
All this arguing over Shikamaru is getting seriously out of hand. He is my favorite character, but his place in the story is not Hokage. While he has is incredibly intelligent and has some obvious leadership qualities, he is better suited to be an adviser. I could very easily see Naruto as Hokage, often following his own gut, but coming to Shikamaru in times of uncertainty. (I say Naruto because that's the most obvious ending to the series: Naruto as Hokage.)
The question still remains... Will Shikamaru die? I'm wondering what everyone else think about this. There are a number of reasons I doubt it. Shikamaru is one of Kishimoto's favorite characters. While he couldn't see himself married to any female Naruto characters, he said in an interview that if he was a girl he could see himself with Shikamaru. Yeah, Kishi has killed off characters he loved before, but geez. Also, as much as he's hinted towards ShikaTema without confirming it, killing Shikamaru would end that situation in a weird, girlish way. After killing Neji, Shikamaru is the only genius level leaf ninja left, barring Sasuke. Furthermore, after Neji's death and Obito's boasting, killing someone of about equal closeness to Naruto would seem cruel and unusual, without adding much to the story. With Tsunade close behind, I think if she saved him, that would make the most sense. If she got there and failed to save him, that would be another example of a cruel and unusual situation that didn't help the story along. Somehow, though, I could still imagine Kishimoto killing Shikamaru off. Thoughts?