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    the name of the two sons

    wanted to see if some of you guys can dig up some good stuff on the sons like some did with the izanagi/izanami .....them myths


    well...my hunch runs on the fact that most kids are named after their parents or atleast similar in most cases(in Japanese a lot of the times)....

    rikuduo sennin was named BAGOROMO
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    now we have here is Butsuma is telling his kids who the allies of the Uchiha are...
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    the HAGOROMO CLAN...
    http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Hagoromo_Clan



    so,you guys think the eldest boy was named Hagoromo...to much of a coincidence to me?



    come on out again those Japanese mythology lovers/intellectuals...
    Last edited by gnut; September 11, 2013 at 07:46 PM.



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    Re: the name of the two sons

    I really want to know what was they special power. Like they jutsu and fighting style
    I must create a real village, until i demonstrate what a real kage is. I cant Die!

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    Re: the name of the two sons

    Quote Originally Posted by enmymiguel View Post
    I really want to know what was they special power. Like they jutsu and fighting style
    im was thinking today...if harogomo clan is the equivalent to uchiha...as uzumaki is to senju

    if uzumaki trademark strength is seals...maybe harogomo strength is summons...
    the wiki(I know but)says...
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    ◾ The word "Hagoromo" (羽衣) literally means "angel's raiment" or with regards to birds, refer to their wings, or plumage.
    sasuke/itachi and their bird summons really come to mind....



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    Re: the name of the two sons

    I bet the sages mother, when reveiled, is going to be a very *well drawn* character. If you catch my drift. haha

    Also, how about Bagoromo jr and Bagoromo jr. the 2nd?

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    Re: the name of the two sons

    Oh shit, good catch. Btw, the mangapanda translation even says "Hagoromo" not Bagoromo - http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/646/9 (maybe cuz B and H are close together on the keyboard heh) - the clan and the sage's name must be the same thing

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    Haha yea buddy. I think mangastream said it with a B. Thats why on wikia his name still isn't put up yet.

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    Re: the name of the two sons

    Quote Originally Posted by KungPaoChicken View Post
    I bet the sages mother, when reveiled, is going to be a very *well drawn* character. If you catch my drift. haha

    Also, how about Bagoromo jr and Bagoromo jr. the 2nd?


    nah, maybe the sage mother is exactly looks like kushina.
    When i claimed that minato knows Kage Bunshin, They said that I'm wrong.
    When i claimed that minato is a sage mode user, they said that I'm delusional.
    When i claimed that minato can extend his chakra arms and can activate BM, they said that I'm ridiculous.
    Seriously, Who's "wrong", "delusional" and "ridiculous" now?

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    Re: the name of the two sons

    Quote Originally Posted by marshall313 View Post


    nah, maybe the sage mother is exactly looks like kushina.
    That'd be a suprise!! Haha there kids names are irrevelant. We just need the sages name.

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    Re: the name of the two sons

    Quote Originally Posted by KungPaoChicken View Post
    That'd be a suprise!! Haha there kids names are irrevelant. We just need the sages name.
    really?......

    could be a trump card....

    nono,just joshing...but it very much could be relevant.i thought it would be nice to see if anyone could find something mythologic between the names...
    like izanami and izanagi...hell kaguya is a famous mythological character.....



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    I guess were playing scooby doo. Hmm. Well in that case its got to be something in asian mythology of two brothers who went against each other. Like Cain and Abel in the christianity belief right?

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    Re: the name of the two sons

    hyuga byakugan rumored being related with sharingan in part 1 before. maybe uchiha and hyuga are related?

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    "While many can pursue their dreams in solitude, other dreams are like great storms blowing hundreds, even thousands of dreams apart in their wake. Dreams breathe life into men and can cage them in suffering. Men live and die by their dreams. But long after they have been abandoned they still smolder deep in men's hearts. Some see nothing more than life and death. They are dead, for they have no dreams."


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    Re: the name of the two sons

    According to MP translation

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    Butsuma says "This time the enemy wasn't only the Hagoromo clan but the Uchiha too."

    According to MS translation

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    Butsuma says "It seems that the Uchiha have joined the Hagoromo in opposing us."

    Eh?

    If we take both of these translations into consideration,We get that the Hagoromo clan were the main enemies of the Senju and that the Uchiha clan were fairly new enemies to the Senju.

    If the Sage named his Elder son after his own name and the direct descendents of the Elder son made a clan of their own (The Hagoromo clan) from which the Uchiha clan later came from,then it would be a parallel with the Uzumaki clan and between Sasuke and Naruto

    I wonder if there is a good reason that both the names of the Sage and the clan are the same or it's just that a bunch of people made a clan and named it after the Sage's name lol.(They just happened to know the name =P) Hagoromo clan seems to have gone too dilute just as the Senju clan,another parallel lol.

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    Re: the name of the two sons

    Quote Originally Posted by Knight of Heaven 0 View Post
    If we take both of these translations into consideration,We get that the Hagoromo clan were the main enemies of the Senju and that the Uchiha clan were fairly new enemies to the Senju.
    exactly bro....
    this is why I made a thread about it...I took it the same way you did
    the Hagoromo was the main force that opposed the Senju....



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    Re: the name of the two sons

    Quote Originally Posted by Knight of Heaven 0 View Post
    According to MP translation

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    Butsuma says "This time the enemy wasn't only the Hagoromo clan but the Uchiha too."

    According to MS translation

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    Butsuma says "It seems that the Uchiha have joined the Hagoromo in opposing us."

    Eh?

    If we take both of these translations into consideration,We get that the Hagoromo clan were the main enemies of the Senju and that the Uchiha clan were fairly new enemies to the Senju.

    If the Sage named his Elder son after his own name and the direct descendents of the Elder son made a clan of their own (The Hagoromo clan) from which the Uchiha clan later came from,then it would be a parallel with the Uzumaki clan and between Sasuke and Naruto

    I wonder if there is a good reason that both the names of the Sage and the clan are the same or it's just that a bunch of people made a clan and named it after the Sage's name lol.(They just happened to know the name =P) Hagoromo clan seems to have gone too dilute just as the Senju clan,another parallel lol.
    Ohh. I forgot about that. So maybe the descendents of the sage are actually the Uzumaki and Hagaromo. And the Senju and Uchiha were actually watered down versions. And the Hagaromo and Uzumaki's strongest members were wiped out a longer time before Madara and Hashirama before their primes.

    Is everything we know a lie?!?!?

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