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anyway , I think we should stop comparing it with Genesis story because kishi only used some of concept ....
now , This Tree turned to a greedy tree who looked human as his food ...
Naruto Story is a Godless story .... as you see there is no difference between Bad Guys ET and Good Guys ET .... so that mean they have no hell and heaven concept .... and they had no God to stop them from toying with dead people ....
by the way , both Oro (super bad guy ) and Naruto ( so called super good guy ) will have same fate after their death ..
Last edited by shafagh; September 18, 2013 at 02:55 AM.
We have only seen the afterlife for one person so far - Kakashi's dad - and that wasn't even the real afterlife (he said he felt free to move on now). We have no idea what happens to people when they do move on - where they go, what they do, etc.
Unless you mean what will happen to their physical bodies - but following all the experimentation that Orochimaru has performed on himself, I have no doubt that his body will not behave in the usual way following his spirit leaving his body.
Last edited by zimbardo; September 18, 2013 at 03:03 AM.
Some trees just love to see the world burn...
Believe it or not, last year I caught one of those fu****s how he was trying to uproot the south wall of my house. It was only thanks to my quick intervention that worse could be prevented... a mere century longer and who knows how many people would have died under the collapsing building.
I think the biggest problem is that what it is doing makes zero sense. As we know so far from what Madara explained, the tree is capable of creating more fruits, which is what Obito is trying to achieve in 15 minutes time, so for it to be pissed that a single replaceable fruit was consumed is rather ridiculous.
It just seems unreasonably selfish. Another thing that has already been touched upon is that, there were Chakra wars after the Sages mother ate the fruit, its not that she gave birth to Chakra users IIRC (only Rikudou) but the wars had already evolved. My thoughts is that the God Plant was suppressing the humans ability to use Chakra for whatever reason and the fruit was key to removing that limitation.
Rikudou being the father of all chakra usage makes very little sense.
Ok, another thing that bothers me about this, this is basically what Madara said happen:
God Tree: "Ok, I don't want to share this chakra, so I will make a fruit....because"
Kaguya: "Oh, a fruit of power, I think I will eat that"
God Tree: "I am mighty angry at you right now"
*25 years passes*
God Tree: "hey! Sage, are you old and powerful enough to seal me up now?"
Sage of 6 paths: "uh, yeah....why?"
God Tree: "Then it's GARLIC TIME! DIE MADDAFAKKA!!"
That said, I believe this manga was doing exceptionally well up to the point when Naruto changed from a hard working idiot reaching for his goals to a child of prophecy that couldn't lose because he was supposed to eventually save the world.... which now turns out that the reason the world needs saving is because the ancestor of shinobi ate a forbidden fruit.
Its fine to have a godless world setting, but biblical based stories just don't seem to fit into those kinds of settings without seeming corny and out of place.
Last edited by Anduren; September 18, 2013 at 10:45 AM.
Haha the onion thing was hilarious. watch it really have one more transformation into a giant onion.
It looks like were going to be dealing with a new sub arc eventually.
actually , IMO there were no good ninja (killer who kill for money ) in first place , but let ignore this simple fact and look at this story as an idiot 5 yrs old kids who has no mind and can't judge and question manga ( kishi just write his story for this type of readers )Quote:
there is no difference between Zabuza and some one like Asuma .... it seems all of them were endlessly sleep ... they even doesn't aware of what going in world .....
side note : now that Naruto world is godless ,heaven-less and hell-less world , then Oro is the only rational being , because he want to be immortal
this page (for example, and jutsu like ET) shows as much.
Being rational doesn't require an afterlife.
Also, I would say that Orochimaru is quite rational. His reason for trying to become immortal has little to do with him wanting to live forever (as such) but rather with him having enough time to study ninjutsu to its fullest. He wants to know everything and realizes that he will never have enough time for that (probably not even if he actually did become immortal).
So, with that in mind, and also realizing that this is a fantasy world where the afterlife could be anything at all (there may even be an individual place for the afterlife specific to each ninja) - I ask again, how do you know that
Last edited by zimbardo; September 20, 2013 at 03:24 AM.
Personal answer? Depending on how long human beings existed since the last fruit bloomed, the fruit may have been something else being born into the world that would have ended the conflict. I mean, people were told by something or someone not to eat the stupid thing so obviously something was bound to happen with the fruit. Also, the fruit could be seen as the trees "child" so it being a parent may be a bit miffed that some two legged flesh bag ate it's "child" and then used it's power.
Then again, maybe the god tree liked being an asshole who like to mess with the two legged flesh bags.
God Tree: "Hey humans guess what? I got this tasty fruit that'll give you god like powers!"
Humans: "Great, we can eat this to put a stop our wars!
God Tree: Huh? You wanna eat it? Are you stupid or something? This delicious bastard ain't for eatin'."
Humans: "Wha...well what's it for then!?"
God Tree: "What do you mean "what's it for then"? It ain't for you and that's all you need to know.
God Tree: "I have spoken! Now if don't mind, I must put this succulent beast right in arm's reach. I can trust you guys not to eat it right?"
*1000 year later*
The Shinobi Alliance: Shit, were losing horribly.
Isn't there anything we can do?
Even Naruto and Sasuke are no help.
Mystery Voice: Don't worry guys. Im here!
Shinobi Alliance: Its the lumberjack Ninja! Were saved!!
*Tree gets chopped*
Naruto & Sasuke: Were idiots...
it almost seems like he was winging it from week to week instead of actually thinking things out
it makes me wonder if he even thought out the whole tobi being the mastermind of the akatsuki or if he just played it by ear and did it on a whim
still a good manga, hell naruto is still great
however this ending is probably going to leave a bad taste in our mouthes, and leave us thinking how good the ending could have been.....