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    Re: Killua vs Phinks

    Quote Originally Posted by KingOfNight View Post
    If he wasn't scared of him, he wouldn't be running like hell to get away from him and talking to him with most respect. Tusbone said he wouldn't lose to him, but that's simply in terms of potential. Illumi was 100% sure he and Hisoka could kill Killua without any trouble. That "glass cannon" made a joke out of most of the Zodiac.
    Oh really? So Illumi wanted to kill Killua? Im pretty sure he was pissed when Hisoka suggested they should. Anyway he didn't know about kanmaru at that point so of course he thought he could win. And even though he's a glass cannon that doesn't mean he can't fight or you know, dodge or block.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demonspeed View Post
    It's kinda funny to think Illumi is a glass cannon while we know he endured the same training as Killua. Amori Brothers weren't able to hurt Killua, Illumi must be more durable. It was just to show that Gon is a genius and that you mustn't annoy him, he hadn't even trained but was able to break his arm. After that, Illumi understood that Gon would be a future menace, this is why Hisoka threatened him.
    Arm crushed by pre-nen Gon=glass cannon.

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    Re: Killua vs Phinks

    In Zoldyck family , black hair gen have weak physics compare silver hair gen
    Who have same ideal?

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    I think that the bond betwin killua and alluka is way more complex than what you make it sound, that works the both ways if killua can use freely his siblings power it 's because he doesn't want to use it in the first place, and more importantly he doesn't want to hurt , to exploit nanika/alluka, during the election arc he didn't use nanika/alluka to harm anyone, he doesn't want to make hit do anything "bad", he healed gon and tsubone and teleported illumi that's all he did. If killua used to wish in order to kill people, to gain expensive or rare items ,etc he wouldn't have such an access.

    And again killua's power is not as hax as the technique's name make it sound. He improves his nerves impulses, so in terms of reflexes almost nobody can match him (meruem could certainly), so there's no way to outspeed him, handle him in hand to hand fights (cf vs yupi), but that does not mean he moves at lightning speed, nor that this is a plot hole from togashi. He can make mistakes, for example the fact that killua didn't know anything regarding name, except the name and the technique itself of his grand father.......
    But killua is far from invincible. He moves fast, but although his reflexes are enhanced witch improves his speed (he transcends the limits of the nerve system) but he's still made of flesh and blood, his body isn't made of lightning. So the fact that his speed is actually estimated at 200 mph isn't necessarly an error. And knowing that aura canbe moved at very high speed, knowing that killua's speed his physically limited by his flesh, there his ways to preevently protect the fatal areas if his opponents has a certain level.

    Witch is the case of phinks who has also way more aura, his a natural high level enhancer, and he's for sure way more performant physically (base speed, strenght, endurance,etc). Killua should'nt be able to pass phinks ren decisively.

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    Re: Killua vs Phinks

    Quote Originally Posted by tupadre97 View Post
    Oh really? So Illumi wanted to kill Killua? Im pretty sure he was pissed when Hisoka suggested they should. Anyway he didn't know about kanmaru at that point so of course he thought he could win. And even though he's a glass cannon that doesn't mean he can't fight or you know, dodge or block.
    Not wanted, but knows he and Hisoka can. Kanmaru wouldn't have helped. The butlers saw it, and weren't impressed, at least not enough to think it will help against Illumi. Killua himself knew that. He wasn't guarding his hand with Nen. As it was stated several times in the series (Gon Vs Genthru and Killua Vs Sub), if your opponent has more Aura than you, you wouldn't be able to deal any significant damage. And considering Illumi's monstrous Aura, he's definitely not a glass cannon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flex151285 View Post
    In Zoldyck family , black hair gen have weak physics compare silver hair gen
    Who have same ideal?
    Not really. Its just that black haired zoldycks are manipulators and white haired ones are transmuters so they are usually stronger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingOfNight View Post
    Not wanted, but knows he and Hisoka can. Kanmaru wouldn't have helped. The butlers saw it, and weren't impressed, at least not enough to think it will help against Illumi. Killua himself knew that. He wasn't guarding his hand with Nen. As it was stated several times in the series (Gon Vs Genthru and Killua Vs Sub), if your opponent has more Aura than you, you wouldn't be able to deal any significant damage. And considering Illumi's monstrous Aura, he's definitely not a glass cannon.
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    I guess you didn't see my second post above.

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    Re: Killua vs Phinks

    Quote Originally Posted by tupadre97 View Post
    I guess you didn't see my second post above.
    I did see it. Did you read my whole post? The point is the same.

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    Re: Killua vs Phinks

    He's not a glass cannon it just so happens that Togashi hadn't thought of Nen and the characters' respective power levels at the time.

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    Re: Killua vs Phinks

    Quote Originally Posted by tupadre97 View Post
    Oh really? So Illumi wanted to kill Killua? Im pretty sure he was pissed when Hisoka suggested they should. Anyway he didn't know about kanmaru at that point so of course he thought he could win. And even though he's a glass cannon that doesn't mean he can't fight or you know, dodge or block.
    Arm crushed by pre-nen Gon=glass cannon.
    I have a question for you. Why do you think Illumi considered killing him after that? He said he was dangerous, and it was because he was able to destroy his arm without training. It's impossible to be a skilled Nen user and be a glass canon in HXH unless your physical condition is extremely weak or maybe if you have conditions. Illumi, who has endured the Zoldyck traditional training can't be a glass cannon.
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    Re: Killua vs Phinks

    I'm pretty sure Illumi could have stopped Gon from breaking his arm at that time, but didn't care enough to make a scene. It really shows you how messed-up Illumi is that he could be so apathetic about having his arm broken.

    Illumi saw Gon as a future threat mainly due to his closeness to Killua. His potential to grow stronger was only a secondary concern.

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    Re: Killua vs Phinks

    Quote Originally Posted by tupadre97 View Post
    Sure i guess so.
    He's a manipulator so that puts him a certain distance away from reinforcement but we've seen that even conjurer-specialists like Kuroro can take emission blasts to their backs (from Zeno, no less) so perhaps the differences between the nen categories are overstated by Togashi. Real glass cannon characters are the sort that have some supreme ability and are only balanced out by their frailty. Examples include: Meleron and Cheetu. The ability to control somebody isn't imo considered a supreme ability. Shalnark considered himself replaceable in contrast to Pakunoda and even the kissing manipulator who got squashed in York Shin could mind control someone.

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