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    Re: Naruto 651 Discussion / 652 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Roman View Post
    In Naruto's case, I doubt it.

    You've learned that Naruto evolves through battles, embrace that notion already. And of course he's supposed to be cool, the manga's coming to an end and it's time for the main character to shine.
    I don't, though. He's gotten tired in less than a day before. He's lasted this long mainly thanks to the Kyuubi and even some other bijuu. Hashirama has gone for a full day without collapsing or showing too much exhaustion. Naruto might beat Madara in stamina or chakra, but I don't think he comes close to Hashirama. The only thing that'd keep Naruto going would be willpower. If Madara had Naruto's willpower, he wouldn't have collapsed when he and Hashirama finally made peace.

    That's not evolving though. Naruto shouldn't have to be asspull cool, nor should we be going "omg he's cool" NOW. More like, "wootwoot he's still so cool," given that his coolness was established before the war. We'll disagree here, most likely, but his coolness ebbed away as the war arc started and progressed, with very few bouts of coolness here and there.
    Quote Originally Posted by Schabrak View Post
    The chakra arms were just chakra after all too. So the biju shroud which consists of pure chakra should allow him to form some rasengan too. I would like to reference to the first time Naruto fought the white Zetzu after he learned RM.

    The biju can form the bijudama in front of their mouth, put some sense into that. :P
    Yeah, but Naruto didn't make them in chakra shroud far away from his body. He made them out of the chakra shroud. Probably important if he has to deal with chakra body and all.

    Close to their body, not meters away. \m/

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    Re: Naruto 651 Discussion / 652 Predictions

    and I should say , The chakra automatically response to Naruto will , so even his control over it has no value , because he could heal Shikamaru from distance and even without he knew about it ...

    so it is like think >> Naruto thinks : " Its good to have 9 Rasenagan in QB tails " and then chakra automatically response to his will .....

    at least it was something that kishi himself said in past two chapter ....
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    No, it just works as Kishi wants it to.
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    Meh can't have Bleach without fan raging, makes it fun.

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    Re: Naruto 651 Discussion / 652 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by M3J View Post
    I don't, though. He's gotten tired in less than a day before. He's lasted this long mainly thanks to the Kyuubi and even some other bijuu. Hashirama has gone for a full day without collapsing or showing too much exhaustion. Naruto might beat Madara in stamina or chakra, but I don't think he comes close to Hashirama. The only thing that'd keep Naruto going would be willpower. If Madara had Naruto's willpower, he wouldn't have collapsed when he and Hashirama finally made peace.

    That's not evolving though. Naruto shouldn't have to be asspull cool, nor should we be going "omg he's cool" NOW. More like, "wootwoot he's still so cool," given that his coolness was established before the war. We'll disagree here, most likely, but his coolness ebbed away as the war arc started and progressed, with very few bouts of coolness here and there.
    When? Back when he was training to perfect the FRS he made 1000 clones and continued to progress. I'm actually afraid to find out how many clones he can make now, totally ignoring Kurama. Maybe he's not on Hashirama's level yet, but I'd say he's pretty damn close, as far as chakra pool is concerned.

    Well, if you wish to view it as an asspull, that's also an approach. But considering how many feats he showed throughout the war without us having not seen the training for them, they could all be called asspulls.
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    Re: Naruto 651 Discussion / 652 Predictions

    So if obito is defeated, what will happen to the bijuus? will they be released? I think they will have to be release, in order for conflict to flourish between sasuke and naruto, in regards to whether or not they should be erased from the shinobi world


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    the end is near !!!!!

    everybody is nice and beautiful, that's the lesson behind this great(in the beginning because now...) manga

    so in the end we're going to see everybody drink, dance and kiss each others as in Asterix or One piece... pffffffffffffffffffffff

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    The fact that Kakashi can see what Obito is able to see and to hear what He says I don't find it strange, considering that this had already happened when Obito saw the death of Rin.
    The thing that I did not like is the sword of Rikudou had the shape of the code of the dna. In In In the truth only two thing could make me change the judment about that sword.
    The first thing is if maybe in the next chapter (although unlikely) we will know that somehow it was that sword that made the illusion that Obito saw.
    Infact from what Obito says here http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/651/6, the sword in someway contains the sould and the will of Rikudou, for this reason that sword could be considered alive.
    I think that could be a possibility, even if it is unlikely, I think this from this pages http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/651/8, the frame in which Obito brings the sword and from it came a “!”.

    The second and last reason that I would give a positive opinion of the sword is the case in the next chapters we will discover that Rikudou used this sword to transmit the chakra to other men. In fact we know so far as the right to use the chakra should be the prerogative of Rikudou (and / or any brothers and sisters) and his descendants, while all other men should not, however, have had the right to use the chakras, such as Rock Lee.

    However, I do not think that it was the sword, but most likely Madara, in fact having accumulated enough cells of Hashirama I think Madara will be able to use the sage mode, so I believe that Madara used a Tsukyomi with his EMS or a genjutsu with the Rinnengan in sage mode (in fact, the Sage Mode also enhances the genjutsu, not only the ninjutsu and the taijutsu).
    Anyways, a first superficial reading might seem like Naruto is under illusion http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/651/12, but if we make a careful reading one can notice that the last image is created by superimposing the images of Obito and Naruto, as if to say that Obito would have become like Naruto, if He instead of returning to Madara he would have returned to Konoha, just like Obito sees in his illusion (as I mentioned He would have made ​​from Madara or from the sword).

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    Do I really need to say that everyone has their own point of view of the manga and can share it respectfully, that there is no point to bash people for their opinion ? Let's stick to the topic, thanks.
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    Re: Naruto 651 Discussion / 652 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by M3J View Post
    Yeah, but Naruto didn't make them in chakra shroud far away from his body. He made them out of the chakra shroud. Probably important if he has to deal with chakra body and all.

    Close to their body, not meters away. \m/
    So I have a question, what does it matter the distance if he's still in control of the chakra which makes the technique?

    That's like saying if he makes a chakra arm far away from his body, it would be odd if he made a Rasengan with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M3J View Post
    Yeah, but Naruto didn't make them in chakra shroud far away from his body. He made them out of the chakra shroud. Probably important if he has to deal with chakra body and all.

    Close to their body, not meters away. \m/
    Yeah I think it matters not how far away his chakra is from his body. I am under the impression that he is gaining a lot more control over his chakra regardless of distance. He did call his friends via chakra link from handing out his chakra earlier. And since the Kurama shroud is still touching his body, It's not too farfetched to say that he would have significantly more control to mould rasengans with.

    He is the sage in the making after all ^_^
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    I don't know why people are making a big deal about the sword, really. I mean first, when he fully controlled the jyuubi after absorbing it, he was able to make the black orb into a shape of the shakujo, which was one of the Sage's weapons. It's most likely an imitation, much like Obito thinks he's the Sage's second coming. I'm not surprised he's making this "dna sword" out of those black stuff as well and calling it THE weapon containing the will of the sage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbacarra View Post
    I don't know why people are making a big deal about the sword, really. I mean first, when he fully controlled the jyuubi after absorbing it, he was able to make the black orb into a shape of the shakujo, which was one of the Sage's weapons. It's most likely an imitation, much like Obito thinks he's the Sage's second coming. I'm not surprised he's making this "dna sword" out of those black stuff as well and calling it THE weapon containing the will of the sage.
    The problem herein lies in the story telling

    in 1 version you have the sage who created the world

    in version 2 you have the sage who was born in an already existing world with powers because his mother ate a fruit.

    DNA Sword makes no sense with Version 2(the most recent)

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    Quote Originally Posted by shafagh View Post
    and I should say , The chakra automatically response to Naruto will , so even his control over it has no value , because he could heal Shikamaru from distance and even without he knew about it ...

    so it is like think >> Naruto thinks : " Its good to have 9 Rasenagan in QB tails " and then chakra automatically response to his will .....

    at least it was something that kishi himself said in past two chapter ....
    its more like the chakra is apart of his body, he didn't think the 9 rasengan, if you read it again you see that he formed seals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sentazar View Post
    The problem herein lies in the story telling

    in 1 version you have the sage who created the world

    in version 2 you have the sage who was born in an already existing world with powers because his mother ate a fruit.

    DNA Sword makes no sense with Version 2(the most recent)

    obito was metaphorically speaking ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sentazar View Post
    in 1 version you have the sage who created the world
    It's said that he created NINJA world

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoulFury View Post
    It's said that he created NINJA world
    and the juubi is described as the progenitor of ... what was it? "everything"? and now we know it's a tree that is the 'host of a sealed god'. either everything is crazy inconsistent or there's a lot more to the story than shinju --> juubi -->bijuu.

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