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Translations: Gintama 507 (2)
Problem with fan service is that it can take away the seriousness of the moment and/or imply that the manga doesn't have much plot or the mangaka wants to distract. Given the amount of fan service, Mashima could be seen as desperate for more readers, given that it's not always necessary to include boobs or whatnot. Maybe like Kishi, he's just finding ways to extend the plot or provide some ways to please the fans, especially if the plot isn't as good.
This is a great example of fanservice ruining a great moment.
Basically, it was the moment when she says something like "I'm home", and she cry of relief.
But, the way it was drawn was basically a huge close-up of her boobs.
Totally ruined the drama for me...
like when lucy was trying to close the zodiac gate and we got nothing but crotch-shots of her in a very serious moment
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one of the best of all time
Still nothing in FT makes me want to stop reading it because i enjoy it to the max. Even if Juvias constant theme is the most annoying i can think of it still is something i take for granted.
That said the fan service is 1 of the things that makes me enjoy it too. You never know what Mashima might pull next.
I could go endlessly on about how i admire Mashima for his work without going into fanboy mode, because i appreciate his work for what it is. A few reasons why i put up with his fan service?
- he talks in detail about how he works outside and inside the manga releases, like how his editor wants him to redo stuff or add or remove things. Which he doesnt always agree with. How many authors do we know that talk this openly about their work?
- all the art is to my opinion top level, i never felt like... ok this could have been done better its sloppy.
- every time i read fairy tail i cant wait to read the next chapter. Its catching.
- each and every character is more or less unique, they dont look like generic characters that you just open a can of, that have just different 3 sizes and a different dye of hair-color.
- last but not least, i admire how he is able to bring something so well that he himself dislikes doing, like bringing back lisanna. It wasnt his idea it was his editors. And he did it so well. Its 1 of the reasons i like his work so much. Hes that gifted.
What i mean to say with these points is that this outweighs his leaning to draw fan service. I just feel that all the other stuff outweighs it by far. Its merely my opinion. Feel free to comment if you want ^^
Last edited by ca12nag3; October 26, 2013 at 09:00 AM.
It's all subjective. Few people could find the last two chapters to be great, while other few would find it horrible.Quote:
But why does he need to include fan service constantly? Appealing to all sorts of fans out there is good, but wouldn't it be better to make fan service a bit more rare? It'd still appeal to everyone, and give "perverts" something to anticipate.
It was the most dramatic scene from Flare, and it didn't had any dramatic impact because of the fanservice.
It was like if Oda from One Piece would have shown Robin boobs when she cried and said "I wanna live".
It would have ruined all the drama.
I look at the Flare panel the first time and doesn't feel anything that's its fan service scene. It wasn't until I read comment here and go back and look at it that I see it can be thought of a fan service scene.
I think people who notice the fan service are, well, more distracted by it because of how their mind works?
I know I sound like a broken record, but people really need to use some perspective when they look at fanservice in this manga. One obnoxious scene every few chapters, even during an emotional moment on occassion, is slightly annoying but not worth complaining about. Fanservice may be at times overused a bit, but it is NOT abused in this manga. It just is not, especially when you compare it to popular manga where it clearly is. The type of fanservice Fairy Tail deals with is usually funny and not forced, and it's really not something that I think of when reading this manga. If we had multiple boob and butt shots every chapter, then you have a point, but most of the time this manga can be taken seriously as simply a source of good art and balanced fanservice. A manga should be judged on how it holds up if you subtract the erotic nonsense that the author throws in, and lemme tell you, it's pretty great especially right now. Go remove the fanservice (both erotic and comedic) from Kenichi, and what do you get? The craziest, most nonsensical storytelling in martial arts manga history. After that Flare chapter, I'm more interested in E.N.D. and Tartarus than the size of her chest.
Last edited by obamamania; October 28, 2013 at 08:07 AM.
You're going to tell me that this is not distracting?
Mashima chose that angle.
He could have pick any other angle, but he chose that one.
Especially that the panel right before she's looking up, at the giants.
So, the angle is weird either way.
In any case, this was a deliberate fanservice choice from Mashima.
And a perfect example, IMO, of fanservice done wrong.
Last edited by THM Nindo; November 01, 2013 at 03:11 PM.
And as some of us have been saying, it could be worse and we choose not to be bothered by it because we love Fairy Tail and appreciate the vast majority of the time when fanservice is not a problem. And as I've been saying, until we end up at the level of Kenichi fanservice, I'll ignore it.
What fanservice? There is no fanservice in Fairytail, Fairytail is an ecchi manga. I would never feel safe reading Fairytail at work/school, every chapter is filled with sexual posses or blatant nudity. I don't particularly have a problem with it, because that's just the kind of thing you come to expect from ecchi mangas, I like Highschool of the Dead as well, but I would never consider reading that at work/school either for similar reasons. Does that make them bad manga? No, but don't pretend like they are suitable for children who don't live in a country saturated with tentacle porn.
not complaining about seeing flares boobies, as i believe most male fans , (and probably alot of female fans) all share this opinion
however it certainly takes away from the seriousness of the moment when something dramatical is happening
this is mashimas choice , and he certianly has that right because he is the mangaka
but we arent all going to agree with everything our favorite authors do, honestly FT is still one of my favorites even with the occasional poorly timed and placed FanService