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Urahara didn't actually show much to be able to say that he is better than even Byakuya. Let alone any of the Senior Captains. His Kido is good, but in order for it to have an effect he needed incantation and in real battle no one will allow it. His feats against Aizen were clearly explained by Urahara himself. Aizen just wanted to see the limits of his new acquired powers, thus for the most part he didn't even bother to dodge, so Urahara himself stated that if it was the Aizen everyone knows from before, then he wouldn't be able to catch him in such a fashion. At the same time Urahara's Shunpo was never impressive. I would even say Byakuya impressed me more, not even talking about the likes of Aizen, Yoruichi, Soi Fong, Yama, Unohana, Isshin and some of Royal Guards and also Ichigo... And about Urahara's Zanjutsu... He never showed anything special in it. Being at an average Captain level in this skill won't rate him much in overall scheme. About his hand-to-hand combat... I won't compare him with the real masters like Yama, Tessai, Yoruichi, Isshin, Soi Fong...
"He is certainly stronger than average captains, however I would not rank him above the Visored and Senior Captains. I would not rank him above Kenpachi either despite his tendency to f*ck around.
Visored hold the edge due to Hollowification and Senior due to being more experienced/reaching their potential. Zenpachi can be stupid, but not that stupid to not dodge when he needs to and he actually would be fine against Gin considering he prefers sword fights anyways. "
Because of the stupid plot so Kubo didn't show Gin attained hollow power similar to the way Kubo allowed Grimmjow alive but killed of Stark and Ulq. You missed a huge point about Zaraki dodging Gin's sword, the big problem is that Kenpachi is tooo slow to dodge. I believe Gin could finish most of the vizards except Shinji, if Gin had full hollow power then even Shinji couldn't stand a chance at all. There was still a question why Gin didn't have hollow power while Tosen did.
7. Soi Fong
- Aizen is number one with shikai IMO. It's true that Aizen created WW, but that doesn't mean he thought was inferior to Yama (Aizen actually stated the opposite: http://www.mangapanda.com/94-51305-2...apter-402.html). Aizens extremely careful, he has contingency plans for nearly everything. That's why he created WW. Yama's shikai has high attack power, so his bankai may have been too much for Aizen. Aizen could of used that reasoning when deciding to modify WW or he may have thought just to be sure he should modify him anyway.
Yama, although he is supposedly is stronger than Aizen when using RJ, waited until he caught him and gathered enough energy to oneshot him. He behaved in a similar to Aizen.
- Kenpachi is there just from hype Juha, Shunsui and Unohana
- Shinji's shikai and mask give him a huge advantage.
- Yoruichi can nuke from far or close range with Shunko. She also has hanki, which can nullify her opponent's attacks.
- Soi Fong has shunko, her shikai, and her multiple after image technique.
- Tousen has high speed Regeneration so he can just regenerate from most blows and he gets a speed and power boost from his mask.
Then I"d like to apology for my ignorant, are we cool now?
Anyway, I'm quite sure Kenpachi isn't the strongest shinigami, his power might be one of the highest but his art of killing is still missing, by saying art of killing I mean something like Shunsui's shikai or even better, the way Kenpachi always charging forward doesn't giving him automatically 100% winning. If he fights with someone like Barragan or with Stark firing 1000 ceros then he doesn't have much chance to survive not to mention win anything.
Last edited by MBVC; October 15, 2013 at 04:59 PM.
I understand all the fangasm about Aizen and a few other characters but fangasm shouldn't interfer with reality.
Characters that are way overrated due to fangasm:
I remember when the Vaizards were first intrduced some even speculated noone in SS stand a chance against them even though none of the Vaizards is at the level of the senior captains.
You need to look at the situation to see why Yama even used the kind of strategy that he used....Quote:
With KS it wasn't really a one vs one fight. There were multiple captains and VCs who Aizen could just throu at Yama and make him burn them because there were too weak to protect themselves from Aizen.... Yama decided to kill himself and a few othere, because otherwise all of the cpatains and VC's except for Uno Hacchi and few others that they would be able to grab would die.... Aizen could easly make Yama kil even Ichigo..... In a reall one ve one battle wen yama could just do what he want he could shot his flames all around and eventualy he would get a hit on Aizen. All that Aizne would be able to really do is to defend.... He showed no ability to attack and manain his illusion at the same time, it always started to crack when he attacks someone..... WWith someone as fast as Yama and his ability to make mini nukes in an instant Aizen just wouldnt be able to win.....
Aizen said that Yama+ RJ is too much for him and he didn't really know how strong Yama is without RJQuote:
That is his shikai right?
This is the Captains without bankai right? so I think using the manga as evidence a clear list should be obvious in my opinion.
6.Ishin (judging by his brief fight with Aizen)
Looks like some people ranked Gin higher than Hitsuguya.
Hitsu beat Gin in a shikai fight. Could of killed him but wanted answers so Gin had time to retaliate.
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I will sum up thoughts briefly. We have seen him using higher levels of Hado than Tessai, he has has fought on par with Yoruichi in both speed and hand to hand combat. His intellect surpasses Aizen's. His Zanjutsu seems good, we haven't seen it in depth but I don't see what puts Isshin over him in that area.
Last edited by Miyagi; October 18, 2013 at 05:00 AM.