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Fleet Admiral (Gensui) is not—or not only—an 'Admiral' (Sho) but a 'Commander' (Sui), like Kong, who is a Commander-in-Chief (Sosui).
There are only four ranks clearly named 'Admirals' (Sho) and Commodore (Junsho) is one of them.
Unlike for instance OPwikia's systematization of OP Marine Ranks, I made one that accepts japanese original words (kanji) as a guide. I think we should group Marine ranks using OPverse's rationale instead of US Navy rationale.
MARINE OFFICER RANKS
帥 Sui Rank Group *Senior Flag Officers
総帥 [Zengun] Sosui *Commander-in-Chief **Commandant of the Forces
元帥 [Kaigun] Gensui *Fleet Admiral **Commandant of the Marine
将 Sho Rank Group *Flag Officers
大将 Taisho *Admiral
中将 Chujo *Vice Admiral
少将 Shosho *Rear Admiral
准将 Junsho *Commodore
佐 Sa Rank Group *Senior Officers
大佐 Taisa *Captain
中佐 Chusa *Commander
少佐 Shosa *Lieutenant Commander
尉 I Rank Group *Junior Officers
大尉 Taii *Lieutenant
中尉 Chui *Lieutenant Junior Grade
少尉 Shoi *Ensign
准尉 Juni *Warrant Officer [No character]
Obs.: According to Oda, "The Headquarters ranks and standard Base ranks are about three ranks apart." For example: Marine HQ Junior Officers (I Ranks) equal Marine Base Senior Officers (Sa Ranks).
MARINE ENLISTED RANKS
下士官 Kashikan Rank Group *Petty Officers **Non-commisioned Officers
曹長 Socho *Master Chief Petty Officer **Sergeant Major
軍曹 Gunso *Chief Petty Officer **Sergeant
伍長 Gocho *Petty Officer **Corporal
兵 Hei Rank Group *Seamen **Privates
一等兵 Ittohei *Seaman First Class **Private 1/c
二等兵 Nitohei *Seaman Apprentice **Private 2/c
三等兵 Santohei *Seaman Recruit **Private 3/c || 新兵 Shinpei *Recruit
雑用 Zatsuyo *Chore Boy
I believe Strawhat Pirates could be in the following group ranks:
STRAWHAT PIRATES AS MARINES
Last edited by alelucas; October 23, 2013 at 12:56 PM.
Thanks for it, it really helped me out
This was a little bit blurry for me !
Last edited by Fox666; October 19, 2013 at 08:44 PM.
Look at this one here. I think that slightly matches Marine ranks. Slightly! However, to us, what matters is to understand the structure (Sui Ranks, Sho Ranks etc) in the OPverse, especially what it says about power/strenght of OP characters. IMHO.
Last edited by alelucas; October 19, 2013 at 09:14 PM.
"Master Chief Petty Officer" sounds really funny.
I disagree on your editing about the SH ranks.
Chopper is very strong. Indeed he's always afraid, but he beated some strong guys in the past and I place him now just a little bit above brook in term of place.
We use to forget that mental strenght is as essential as physical strenght for assessing character power in OPverse. What you think?!
I don't get the attempt to put the SHs into comparable ranks. I assume it was meant to be based on ability, but I can't imagine that one would suggest that any of the SHs are on the same level as those ranked as junior officers. Even Nami and Usopp are at least senior officer-level, if not superior to the average Captain. Even way back at Enies Lobby, the SHs faced up against a force that was comprised of fighters with at least the rank of Lieutenant Commander.
Marine Ranks are very relative. Commodore Pudding Pudding was dispatched instantly by the Arlong pirates, while Commodore Yarisugi easily defeated a pirate with a bounty of 200 million.
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Usopp, Nami and Chopper Captain level at a minimum.
You don't need Haki to be Captain level. You just need some serious special moves.
For instance Captains Very Good, Shu, Sharinguru and more importantly the pathetically corrupt Nezumi.
I believe that Nami and Usopp can defeat all of these characters in a fight since they both are specialists at keeping their distance in a fight.
Captain Shu will beat Chopper though since Chopper is physical combat guy and you can't touch Captain Shu without Haki or a long-range attack.
Not including Captain Hina who is just too strong for Captain rank imo.
Senior Flag Officers
- Forces Commander [Admiral] *Commander-in-Chief
- Marine Commander [Admiral] *Fleet Admiral
Elite Flag Officers
- Vice Admiral
- Read Admiral
Flag Officers <> Elite Senior Officers
- Vice Admiral <> Captain
- Rear Admiral <> Commander
- Commodore <> Lt. Commander
Senior Officers <> Elite Junior Officers
- Captain <> Lieutenant
- Commander <> Lt. Jr Grade
- Lt. Commander <> Ensign
- Lt. Jr Grade
Senior Non-comissioned Officers
- Warrant Officer [No character]
Non-comissioned Officers *Petty Officers
- Major Sergeant *Master Chief PO
- Sergeant *Chief PO
- Corporal *PO
- Private 1/c *Seaman 1/c
- Private 2/c *Seaman Apprentice
- Private 3/c (Recruit) *Seaman Recruit
- Chore Boy
Guys, did you note in that rank grouping the Senior Flag Officers are five 'Admirals'? I wonder if the Gorosei (Five Senior Stars) were a former powerful group of five Admirals (at least Four-Star Officers), now decommissioned.
Last edited by alelucas; October 23, 2013 at 12:38 PM.