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THat what I wanted addressed the most (as well as why a lance is through him). His comment about it being the fear of the humans was intriguing and at least, assuming the actual case then wasnt actually caused by the robot death then that would really make the humans look bad. Though I guess were missing information on that crime. The current one being a human is odd at least if it is implicated in North 2's death how was a human that high in the sky fighting like that?
Yes, if a robot is violating a law codified into its A.I, you would definitely think its malfunctioning.
Something could have altered his code so there would be a way for him to kill humans, but Brau says nothing is wrong with his code. I wonder...
You know how Professor Hoffmann quotes Freud, saying that dreams are a manifestation of real events?
That only makes me think that Gesicht dreams are memories. Like, things that should have been totally erased from his chip, just how he offered to erase those memories from Robin's wife so she wouldn't suffer, but somehow those scenes remained. If that's the case, I wonder whose blood that is, then.
North #2 and Paul Duncan's arc was really touching, I had to hold my tears...
And I found the scene were Gesicht tells Robin's wife what happenned to him really good. Many emotions in this first volume, great read so far n_n
About the schedule
We are FaustXIII, Demonspeed, SharkBait, k-dom, nanaDmari, xScar, mistgyu and me. The agreed pace was from Nov 1 to 8 for the reading of volume 1. Now it's November 2, and most of us have already read and commented the whole volume 1: xScar and mistgyu had previously read the whole manga, and Faust, SharkBait, nana and me have ended vol 1. Only left Demonspeed and k-dom who said that he would join us later.
Given that, also that we have an intriguing plot, and lately that most of us seems to be enjoying the story, let me ask you people: Would be or not a good idea to increase the reading pace and to include volume 2 in this week too? Let's share our thoughts on it, and based on the majority's preference, we could take a decision.
Personally I vote for reading vol 2 this week too, and to decide later, after its reading, if we read vol 3 and 4 on the next week or if we come back to the slow pace with vol 3 on the next week.
Oh I liked the one volume, since I can only fit in that much in a week/weekend.
I don't mind reading 2 volumes per week.
Hi! I know it's a bit late but I'd like to participate too. The problem is that this week I'm a bit busy in RL so I won't be able to post my own ideas till later tis week. : (
But i had read vol. 1 months ago so rereading it and vol. 2 now it's possible for me.
Thanks for join us, that is great!
About the schedule
Well people, given that many of us don't have the time to read 2 volumes per week, and that is better if we advance together (which is the purpose of the collective reading), it's better to keep the schedule we already had. So lets give some time to properly end the first volume this week, and we will begin the comments on volume 2 the next friday, as we had previously agreed.
Damn Kewl for releasing all these Animal Country volumes when I promised to join this collective reading :-)
Volume 1 was really nice. You recognize Urasawa art at first glance.
About the story I'm quite happy that I'm not familiar with Astro Boy since it gave me some nice surprise. In particular the robot family and the fact that Gesicht is a robot.
I don't know if it is said somewhere but Gesicht means face in german. And it's quite funny that Gesicht one is not particularly expressive.
About the murderer, I think he is a robot. I don't think a human could have killed North and they wouldn't have been a battle since he cannot arm human. Why can he kill ? Is it a natural process like it seems to be the case 8 years ago or is the robot reprogrammed by a terrorist scientist ?
When I read this volume, I found that these figures are lacking so far. We saw one briefly in the first page but then no more as if the existence of the person who build these 'best' robots are not important.
Finally done with vol. 1 (and with some free time for re-reading it).
This is the first time I read a title about robots, unless the 2 or 3 volumes of Yokohama Kaidashi Kiko that I read, and sadly had to put on hold (may be I’ll retake it once we finish Pluto), and watching some caps of Ghost in the Shell count.
Firstly, I loved Urasawa’s art a lot. Its detailed backgrounds and the generic planes of this futuristic setting. And it is combined at the same time with a shounen style in the characters’ design, specially their faces, but they also have a personal touch that creates Urasawa’s characteristic art. Althought many of them look a bit similar to me, in fact, I think is the way he draws noses.
I found very interesting the fact that robots tend to resamble more and more to humans, not only in the physical aspect (the most modern models), but also in their manners! Imitate drinking tea or even eating a normal dinner. I was astonished while Gesischt and Brando’s family were eating together). But the most important thing of it all it’s that they are creating feelings and even have a sensibilty: they love music, poetry and even have fear and resentement of for their sins during the war! (Really, while reading this volume I was unable to think that they were robots).
And what’s more, Brau, the killer robot, didn’t have a misfunction in his A.I so he must had to obey the robotics laws he was programmed with.
These two things make me wonder if robots, at leats some of them, have gone beyond their creator’s plans, if they have evolved and became or creted an own semi-human conscience.
I agree that Gesicht’s dream and that recurrent memory of that old man are something important for his character development. If that dream is a memory , why Gesischt can’t remember it? Can robots also have traumas that block memories? Is there a possibility that his memory has been modified in some sort?
Now, about the murderer. I agree with you that the data from the crime scenes and the characteristics of the murders point to a robot. But that robot-cop identify the suspect like a human. What about a hybryd? A human with robot parts? Sir Duncan mentioned bionic eyes IIRC.
And finally, I loved the moment in which Gesischit was conforting the robot-cop's widow, and that North #2 sang the song while he was falling, one of the most touching farewell acts I’ve ever read in a manga.
P.S.: Sorry if my post sounds a bit repetitive and its lenght. I tried to read more or less the other posts but i skipped them a bit.
Oh, And I believe that the Asian Conflict it's related to the mistery. It looks that everyone of the 7 super robots were implicated.
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(This topic reminds me of Blade Runner. Has anyone watch it? It's about a robot who looks for his creator to be able to prolong his deadline. Absoultaely fantastic film by Ridley Scott. EDIT: In wanting to prolong his deadline, that robot wants to change his own code...!)
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Thread opened for comments on Volume 2 (chapters 8 to 15), from Nov 8 to 14
Enjoy your reading!
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So the President of the United States of Thracia was a puppet of the big time AI teddy, Dr. Roosevelt?
And who's that guy talking with Dr. Roosevelt? Is it the chief that doesn't want to answer the question of Gesicht's mechanic?
Brando's attempt of giving them the data was so sad, the video of his family. Brando's wife doesn't seem robot to me. Is she a human?
Are Robots allowed to marry Humans in this story? Well they are allowed to adopt human orphans.
Gesicht's memory was tampered huh?
Is it because he investigated or discovered something before? Was it the chief who's responsible of the tampering.
And Brau immitating the old guy that says "It'll 500 Zeus." Is he trolling or something?
About the the pictures Gesicht and Helena had from their trip to Spain. They say it's too many for them and that they should not be relaxing because they went there for Gesicht's training as well not just for vacation. Maybe someone else was responsible for those.
Hmm so much mysteries.