Akutsu Vs Shiraishi
Who would win??????????????????
Last edited by Philia; November 16, 2013 at 09:14 AM.
I really like Shirasihi better as a character. If the stats that are shown in the surface area are Shiraishi without the gauntlet on, then it goes to Akutsu for sure. His natural flexibility and his ability to counter attack, I think, would be stronger than bible tennis. Akutsu's unpredictable play style was enough to confuse the Tanegamishima.
Shiraishi who formulates counter attacks against his opponents, would not be able to see through Akutsu's play style. He's just too random for Shiraishi to beat him, when their stats are so close to equal.
On the other hand, if the stats are Shiraishi's stats with the gauntlet on, Shiraishi would win after he takes it off. The change in the weight of the Gold that he was wearing for three years would provide enough power and enough arm speed to outclass Akutsu.
I made an argument before suggesting that the stats in the data book for Shiraishi's with his gauntlet on, however I don't think anyone commented on it so I cannot claim that it is valid.
Changed thread title and added a poll. It's fine to have multiple threads for multiple discussions.
That said, removing the gauntlet doesn't increase Shiraishi's leg speed, so he'd still have as much trouble with Akutsu's shots as when he wears the gauntlet I think.
Akutsu is a lot better than he was in PoT, but Shiraishi's style is perfect tennis. Akutsu plays unpredictable and Shiraishi plays with perfect fundamentals. Even though Akutsu has better stats, that could be because the stats show Shiraishi with the gauntlet on.
Also, stats aren't everything in these matches, as the Revolutionary Brigade vs #12-19 showed
In the #11-20 matches, There were only 2 exceptions, and BJK and the new Yips are strong techs.
So yeah, stats matter, unless you're hiding something really strong (and Shiraishi doesn't have it). In fact, as you said, Akutsu's playstyle should counter Shiraishi.
As much as I dislike him, Akutsu should win here.
The only things that wouldn't be effected would be mental and speed like Kaoz mentioned. I think judging based on the magnitude of the weights, it would be enough to beat Akutsu by a narrow margin.
^Actually, I believe the areas that are boosted when he's removing the gauntlet are Speed and Stamina.
Also @Hardy, Yukimura and Fuwa have the same stat total as well, so it's not necessarily an exception to stats mattering.
Akutsu wins. All Shiraishi has is his Bible (AKA basic tennis) and the Roundtable Shot, which Akutsu can react in time for due to his flexibility. Plus, Akutsu's basic tennis shouldn't be scoffed at either, as he can hit the 10-ball with no problem. We dunno if Shiraishi can do that.
Mitsuya lost to Inui, who has some of the lowest stats of all
I said the 12-19 matches, not 11-20, because I knew Yukimura and Irie had better stats than Akiba and Fuwa
Momo and kenya had lower stats than their opponents and won because of a new technique developed in NPoT, so they still won, which helps prove that stats aren't everything
Akutsu having a natural talent for tennis, being a genius with an unpredictable playstyle actually gives Shiraishi the edge, as that was the same situation when he played Fuji
We haven't seen Shiraishi or Akutsu get serious in a 1 on 1 match in NPoT(except when Ryoga made Akutsu look silly), we've seen them both in doubles, we saw Shiraishi spank 3rd court, and Akutsu get spanked by G10, so we've seen all that Akutsu has to offer, but we haven't seen if Shiraishi has any new techs
Gonna say this, inb4 replies, "the best doesn't always win".
Shiraishi's playstyle is actually the opposite of using special moves, so don't expect anything. And if his databook doesn't say anything new, then I dunno why we should even consider it.
Shiraishi has NOTHING in his favour here. His stats are worse, his playstyle shouldn't be as effective against an unpredictable guy, he has no techs, he isn't good enough to hit 10ao... like seriously, I like Shiraishi and everything, but he has no chance.
Shiraishi focuses on the fundamentals, his technique is called perfect tennis, and based on matches we've seen him in, he hasn't faced any shot or technique that he can't figure out how to return during the match.
What Shiraishi has going for him is that he can figure out how to return any tech used against him. As far as the 10 ball thing goes, he might be good enough for it, Tezuka is more skilled than any mser who does have 10 ball but we've never seen him hit it, the only way to know if he can hit 10 ball is if it's used against him and he can't return it
Sanada has 5 ball tech, but he's got better stats than 10 ball tech Akutsu, Sanada has never shown he can hit 10 balls at once
All we know is that Niou used synchro with the Mutsus, and that's it. Niou tricked the Mutsus. He and Oishi didn't show to be better. They won? Yes, but that's another topic (I already said this in my last post ).
"What Shiraishi has going for him is that he can figure out how to return any tech used against him" Sadly, Akutsu doesn't have any techs... so, again, how's Shiraishi better?
Also, Shiraishi isn't Sanada nor Tezuka, not even close, lol.
As I said before, if people want to make this a popularity contest I don't mind it, I like Shiraishi way more than Akutsu, but it's just urealistic to think that he's better "just cause". Akutsu has the upper hand here.
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Btw, I dunno why I kept thinking that Akutsu has better stats, they both have 20.
I pick Shiraishi. Because he's much more calm. Given enough time I think he'll adjust with Akutsu's style. Once Shiraishi starts dominating its over for Akutsu.
Depending on the translation you look up, Shiraishi can also be seen saying that if he hadn't scored that shot, the game would have been tipped in Fuji's favor
But they all imply Fuji would have taken Shiraishi out.
Since after 5thCounter, if Shiraishi cannot return the insane lob that comes after 5thCounter, considering they were at a tie-break, it would have definitely been Fuji's win.
Which is why Kenya comes over to give Shiraishi some assurance that "The winner will win. Right?" or something like that.
In other words, no matter what awkward position he is on the court, he can hit back a shot that is either a lob or a drop or a strong forehand or backhand regardless.
Akutsu can definitely take points off of Shiraishi the same way Matsudaira/Miyako were in Doubles.
Since Mutsu/Mutsu pair would utterly trash Oishi/Kikumaru!Niou Synchro.
Niou Synchro-ing with the Mutsu's means he and Oishi knew everything in their minds and put Niou basically like... 10 steps ahead.
You pretty much can't win a single point if your opponent knows every single place you're trying to hit the ball or how you're going to react a shot in exact detail.