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    Lightbulb New Roles and New Rules Suggestion Thread

    Post your suggestions here.

    Here's mine for New Roles:


    Successor - the successor automatically inherits the Day Time Vigilante Role when/if the Vigilante was killed before he/she have used his/her ability to kill during day phase.

    Healthy Townie - when the Sickly Townie targets the Healthy Townie there will be no effect. He/She will be able to vote.
    Last edited by FaustXIII; November 16, 2013 at 09:34 AM.

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    Re: New Roles and New Rules Suggestion Thread

    Oh when we used to play Mafia in real life we had this role Mirror. And the 2nd role is what I read about back then.


    Exhibitionist (the name is pretty stupid)- has an ability to "scare" somebody at night and the person is unable to talk/discuss during the next day phase. The person can only vote.

    Mirror- if mafia targets the Mirror, instead of the Mirror being killed the mafia member who made the kill dies.

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    Re: New Roles and New Rules Suggestion Thread

    Uhhhh interesting thread. Why did I not see this earlier!

    Successor I don't see a problem with this, only that so far most Vigilantes used their power on day one, out of fear they get killed before using it. probably adding

    See no problem with the Healthy Townie, like an substitute of normal Townie. adding

    The Mirror is pretty similar to the Bomb, just that it is only dangerous for the Mafia. Kind of overpowered. Hmm not sure. Maybe one could adjust it somehow, like it reflecting any ability that is used on it... but that would only be healing (which sort of makes sense, the Doctor being protected by the Mirror when targeting it), blocking (just a wasted move then, except it neglates the ability of the mirror and making it vulnerable to Mafia kills), investigation (really don't know how that should work). OR we can make it work like this: the Mirror targets someone every night, and projects the effect that is done to it on someone else. i.e. killing, protecting, investigation (without the detectives knowing), distracting... only thing bothers me here is that it is an other unvulnerable night character. What do you guys think? ~pending

    Exhibitionist as like the opposer of Sickly Townie powerwise. Sort of overpowered, I don't know. The whole game is based on discussings at days, it would take a lot of fun out of it, IMO. /rejecting in this execution
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    Re: New Roles and New Rules Suggestion Thread

    I don't like any of them.

    The successor kills some of the strategy behind the vigilante. Not only that, I don't see how it's fair if a mafia takes him down and then there's another bastard with a gun.

    Healthy townie is a role that will end up revealed as a townie if a sickly targets him, and I don't like that. Besides, the sickly is already weak enough to have a bastard inmune to it.

    The Mirror is a safe PGO, simply OP.

    The exhibitionist is a joy killer.

    Gonna add some roles that we suggested a long time ago (in the LoL game discussion) later.

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    Re: New Roles and New Rules Suggestion Thread

    I was thinking to alter some roles that I'm not happy with.

    How about this:
    Investigator (Townie): The Investigator can investigate a dead player each night. if his role is hidden because of the Janitor. He uses his ability during the day by sending a PM to the host so that only he get to knows the unknown role. (GAME 24) He gets to know the player's role when it's hidden by the Janitor, the Detectives' and Doctors' state of mind and can see through a Death Miller.



    ...and something with the Paranoid Gun Owner having only one bullet in his gun.
    Last edited by Evil3ye; December 03, 2013 at 10:28 PM.

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    Re: New Roles and New Rules Suggestion Thread

    Jester

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    Neighbor

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    Hated Townie

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    TFPTSLBOOIA



    Vagabond

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    Mafia Recruiter

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    Hypnotist

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    Spy

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    Shrinks (Orgz)

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    Threatener and Knock-Out Champion!!!(Orgz)

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    Badass Cowboy

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    Time Bomb

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    Foreign Exchange Student

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    Pimp

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    Burden

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    Bomb Diffuser
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    The Special

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    Mason Hater

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    The Backup

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    Ultra Hated Townie (joke)

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    That's it I guess...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil3ye View Post
    I was thinking to alter some roles that I'm not happy with.

    How about this:
    Investigator (Townie): The Investigator can investigate a dead player each night. if his role is hidden because of the Janitor. He uses his ability during the day by sending a PM to the host so that only he get to knows the unknown role. (GAME 24) He gets to know the player's role when it's hidden by the Janitor, the Detectives' and Doctors' state of mind and can see through a Death Miller.



    ...and something with the Paranoid Gun Owner having only one bullet in his gun.
    You want to make the Investigator even more OP? No thanks.

    The PGO should kill only someone that tries to kill him (vengeful townie, the last person that voted for him -they both go down-, a mafia, or an insane doctor); not everything that targets him.
    Last edited by Hardy; December 04, 2013 at 08:52 AM.

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    Re: New Roles and New Rules Suggestion Thread

    I don't understand what "yojimbo hero" means in the Vagabond description.

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    Re: New Roles and New Rules Suggestion Thread

    I don't either... those are Greg's words

    It's basically a 3rd party that knows who the mafia is. Kinda like a 1 player lover.

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    Re: New Roles and New Rules Suggestion Thread

    And how is the investigator overpowered? He is infact pretty useless since the Janitor ability has been altered. And finding out a Detective's sanity is only useful if he had the change to reveal some results- so only late in the game.

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    Re: New Roles and New Rules Suggestion Thread

    In the LoL gmae the Investigator screwed up us really hard. We had to kill detectives, prostitutes, doctors, and a guy that didn't let us lie at all. He made the Janitor useless... until we got rid of him. Dunno what changed in the Janitor's ability (at least in the games I played).

    It isn't really late game, by day 2/3 you already have people claiming their moves.

    I really like the changes you did in the role section btw.

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    Oh, and don't you think that this thread should go sticky?

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    Re: New Roles and New Rules Suggestion Thread

    yojimbo is a famous movie were a strong samurai comes to town and both factions try to recruit him...in which he is all to obliged to play both sides

    somewhat of a 3rd party i guess



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    Re: New Roles and New Rules Suggestion Thread

    Jester: Wins when being killed. /I don't like it, because I think it's way too easy of a task.

    Neighbor: Can be of any alliance. It's basically Mason just that they have other roles and don't know if the other Neighbors are not Mafia. /I don't like it at all. What's their point.

    Hated Townie: One vote less to be lynched. /I already discussed it with niichan, it is really hard to execute, as it is only possible when there is a tie between Hated Townie and someone else when the time is up. It's not impossible as we had those situations already, when we had to give additional time to break the tie. So theoretically this role can be added.

    The Flying Pumpkin That Shoots Laser Beams Out Of Its Ass: It was a 25% bulletproof 75% vigilante that could "aim" to change its kill chances for one kill to 100% on Mafia and 25% on Town. /that's quite hard to get. What does 25per cent BP mean?

    ...ok I'm too tired for that, continuing tmrw.

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    Re: New Roles and New Rules Suggestion Thread

    I think I understood you (just checked the movie). I'd really like him this way...

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    ...but it's kinda op and really complex so forget about it, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil3ye View Post
    Jester: Wins when being killed. /I don't like it, because I think it's way too easy of a task.
    You can make it harder though.

    Wins when being lynched. He can't say he belongs to the mafia.

    See? ^^ The game goes on even if he wins anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by Evil3ye View Post
    Neighbor: Can be of any alliance. It's basically Mason just that they have other roles and don't know if the other Neighbors are not Mafia. /I don't like it at all. What's their point.

    Hated Townie: One vote less to be lynched. /I already discussed it with niichan, it is really hard to execute, as it is only possible when there is a tie between Hated Townie and someone else when the time is up. It's not impossible as we had those situations already, when we had to give additional time to break the tie. So theoretically this role can be added.
    Well, the neighbors are Masons with roles... and that's it lol. I don't like them either.

    If the hated townie doesn't know he's hated, then I like it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Evil3ye View Post
    The Flying Pumpkin That Shoots Laser Beams Out Of Its Ass: It was a 25% bulletproof 75% vigilante that could "aim" to change its kill chances for one kill to 100% on Mafia and 25% on Town. /that's quite hard to get. What does 25per cent BP mean?

    ...ok I'm too tired for that, continuing tmrw.
    I simply said "no..." because it was complex as fack... too try hard of a role (well, it's on porpuse ), I don't think I even understand it myself. 25% BP would be that he has 25 % chance of blocking a bullet I guess.

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    Ok so, there were 9 more roles (and that's it, we already have the rest) in mafiascum labeled as "normal roles". So I'd like to have them all here:

    Bodyguards
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    Macho

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    Gunsmith (can be pro or anti town)

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    Ninja

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    Jailkeeper

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    Tree Stump

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    The Coward

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    Survivor

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    Hunter

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    And that's it.

    Also, I want to recommend one myself

    Jesus

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    If someone is interested and wants to check more roles, here's a link with a ton of them http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?...Category:Roles

    Like this one

    Inquisitor

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    I think I've posted a lot of them already, so I'll stop
    Last edited by Hardy; December 04, 2013 at 08:53 AM.

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    Re: New Roles and New Rules Suggestion Thread

    dammit I was almost finished typing, then the PC crashed.

    Anyway, long story short, will only mention the interesting roles.

    Mafia Recruiter - imagine him starting all by himself and first recruiting a whole mafia team of his own choice (in a scenario where the role is altered, that he can recruit anyone, not just normal townies), that could be a really fun game too.

    Hypnotist - like it, adding.

    Threatener /KO Champ - like it, but too overpowered. I have two version in mind. Either like Org said for the KO Champ, he can do it every second round only, or he can pick one person only which is immobilized by fear until his death. We can do both versions actually, the one being the threatener other KO champ.

    Badass Cowboy - love it, adding.

    Time Bomb - cool too, but I would alter it so that it only explodes when its time is up, not when it is being lynched.

    Pimp - cool too, but too overpowered as it would block two roles each night. 50/50 chance of success can be added to balance that.

    Burden - yes, adding.

    Bomb Diffuser - yes, good too. I found the bombs got way too cocky in past games, maybe then not everyone would instantly claim it, and just as for the BP mafia needs a counter against bomb too.

    Ultra Hated Townie - actually see this happening with some altering. like suicidal or super vain townie, that can't live with himself, if there are any votes upon him by the end of the day.

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    Jesus can be interesting, if he really gets to be resurrected and the game is not over by then. A confirmed townie that the mafia will be having hard time to deal with.

    Everything else, just meh.

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    Re: New Roles and New Rules Suggestion Thread

    What about the spy?

    I like the Hypnotist more as a mafia guy tbh.

    Besides what you said, I'd also give the Time Bomb a chance to set his bomb in night 2 instead of night 1 (cause seriously, night 1 sucks).

    I have mixed feelings with the pimp mostly because we always played with just a prostitute and it would kinda screw their choices. The prostitutes don't know they have a pimp?

    I like your comments about the Difusser and the Ultra Hated btw (even if the latter was just a joke lol).

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    Imo, you should consider the next roles: Bodyguards, Ninja, Jailkeeper, Hunter and Inquisitor.

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