Like us on Facebook, follow us on Twitter! Celebrate another year with MH and read our yearbook.
Manga News: Check out this week's new manga (8/18/14 - 8/24/14).
Forum News: Visit new sections for Nisekoi and Kingdom!
This is the numbers thing.
A theory most famous on Japanese boards, wrongfully debunked on English boards all too often.
Famous here, because it is too much of a coincidence and systematic to be untrue.
Also in Japan making up names is a very complex matter, often relying on sequences in characters and meaning. I mean, there are a lot of subtle jokes and meaning in nicknames for example.
The abilities among Strawhats and every other character are a sequence of repeating two syllabies structure. It's very similar to 擬態語 (sounds; for example カタカタ referring to someone shaking out of nervosity), though the abilities are usually made up terms and not common with sounds. More often they are like a short explanation of the actual ability.
Now the interesting part is that among Strawhat users there is an even clearer sequence. It's that every syllaby represents also a number. I thought it was coincidence after 2 abilities had this structure, but after 4? I was convinced that Luffy would make Brook his crewmember after Oda revealed in chapter 443 that his ability came after eating the yomi yomi no mi. Why? Look below.
Luffy - Gomu-gomu => Go = 5; Mu(ttsu) = 6 5/6
Zoro - none
Nami - none
Usopp - none
Sanji - none
Chopper - hito-hito => Hi(totsu) = 1; To(o) = 10 1/10
Robin - hana-hana => Ha(chi) = 8; Na(na) = 7 8/7
Franky - none
Brook - Yomi-yomi => Yo(n or ttsu) = 4; Mi(ttsu) = 3 4/3
This means that the next Fruit user will be one including the numbers 2 and 9 in the ability as these are still missing in that sequence.
For Oda to come up with such a sequence is quite brilliant and considering how the Japanese language is not a language of coincidence, but more about creativity in logic it makes perfect sense.
Also it's interesting how he releases information about a character's ability quite late since of recently, which usually ends a discussion on fruit users joining here. haha
The other user argued that this theory has a Half Life 3 character what I don't get as an analogy (never heard of such a game before)....
So for me that leaves the option of 10 members, including Strawhat, and 10 members plus Strawhat, if Oda sticks to this released statement; story telling wise it would be smart to keep the number down it's already quite difficult to give every member enough spotlight.
If there are 10 including strawhat, then there is going to be one more member which is a fruit user made out of the sequence 2-9 or 9-2 (only Kuma - Niku niku - has been introduced with such a fruit so far)
and if 10 plus strawhat it leaves one more spot to a non fruit user.
I don't like to discuss on what story writing features characters join, because it's down to the writing of the story. It never is the same, so Oda can and does alter when such elements are implemented into the story. Usually giving a character some kind of history adds a focus on this character or can be a useful plot device, see Boa's slavery history or Vivi's childhood for example. Character with a detailed history don't always join the Strawhats and sometimes don't even become allies (Shandia, though unclear).
In the current arc there are possibilities as to Mr. Soldier, though it is likely that he won't be a toy after the arc anymore (defeating his uniqueness), Rebecca - his daughter and will probably play a big role in the return of King Riku to reign Dressrosa after the current arc and various other characters (Bartolomeo, the dwarves).
A dwarf would be unique and adding one includes a lot of story writing potential. Especially for jokes having to live on a huge ship and dealing with everything a bit differently from other Strawhats.
Viola would be interesting, too, especially considering her ability, though it is a bit too easy for future arcs. If used correctly they would have no hassle to beat enemies anymore.
Also Giro-Giro doesn't fit in above structure. And she has connections to King Riku which will make her more important for rebuilding the kingdom once Dofla is beaten.
At the moment I don't see any character being that involved with the strawhats who is able to leave behind his position or home. Not even Kin'emon (who would come with his son, Momonosuke) whose ability is not special enough. He is just another swordsman, plus Zoro will probably just learn from him how to cut Fire.
Momonosuke's fruit hasn't been revealed so far which leaves open if he joins alone, but at the moment I see him more like a homage to Akira Toriyama and Dragonball.
It's also not just Nami's responsibility to keep the ship safe. Everyone on the crew helps out too.
Back in east blue saga, Nami wasn't aware that a log pose is needed to travel through the grandline but she was still a skilled navigator. I always think it's a plothole on Oda's part. Or the scientist on Weatheria never use a log pose so she never thought about it much.Quote:
Actually, she just didn't know about the fluctuating magnetic field. She knew about the rest.
No, she along with Chopper and Usopp were worried that Luffy was listening in and indeed he was. Luffy likes going to dangerous places and they know he would want to go there.
I'm pretty sure she is capable of going to those dangerous islands. It's more of a gag that the weakling trio are afraid of dying.
Japanese wordplay page and it is interesting that you can form Fuku with 2 and 9.
Fuku can mean clothes and Kin'emon's Devil Fruit, which is still unnamed, deals with clothes. If it turns out that Kin'emon's Devil Fruit ability is the Fuku Fuku no Mi, he could end up fitting within the criteria the number theory sets out.
There are some arguments against Kin'emon being a new nakama, but if his Devil Fruit is revealed to be called the Fuku Fuku no Mi, going by the numbers theory, things could get interesting.
It's a fascinating system the Japanese number wordplay, I wonder if it is truly directly related to Oda's thoughts when deciding who a New Nakama will be =/. Guess we will find out if and when another Devil Fruit user joins the crew.
Franky had always wanted to sail with his dreamship. And the Franky family told him to go, he didn't have to protect them anymore. He stayed becaused he felt guilty about what happened to Tom San.
He wanted to join the SH's and he fought selflessly beside them. All he needed to do was to finally forgive himself like Iceburg said.
What TheLuffySmile said. Franky really wanted to join the crew but he felt obligated to stay back. Heck, even Sanji didn't want to join the crew initially because he felt he had obligation to stay back in Baratie.
Even way before his bounty was announced and being "forced" to join, he shows LOTS of potential as a crewmate.
He had a unique design.
He had a unique ability.
He was quirky and had an interesting personality. Tend to be overly emotional.
He was a former shipwright and was an apprentice of Tom who built the pirate king ship.
He has a sad past and lost a loved one,Tom.
He had a past grudge against Spandam, the chief of CP9.
He had many interaction with the crew during Enies Lobby arc.
He took down one of the CP9, the main villain of the arc.
He fought alongside the strawhats.
His dream is to build a ship that can sail any ocean.
He built the Thousand Sunny for Luffy, the future pirate king.
You should be arguing about Rebecca can offer to the crew in terms of personality, fighting ability, unique skills and unique appearance. I don't want to argue about this anymore.
Instead most of you Rebecca's supporter say things like this to support her:
Toy soldier will die, so she will join the crew.
Rebecca will developed a new dream out of blue, so she will join the crew.
Dressrosa will be destroyed, so she will join the crew.
All her family will die, so she will join the crew.
Rebecca will eat the mera mera no mi and blackbeard will go after, so she will join the crew.
Toy soldier will be declared a criminal and she needs to follow him, so she will join the crew.
How is Franky forgiving himself for being partially responsible of causing Tom's death even remotely far-fetched?
Franky also fought with the Straw Hats and helped them, which is another prerequisite met. It's because of this Franky got a bounty, which in turn led him to leave the island. Franky seemed to stay solely to atone for his mistakes.
Rebecca however, has always dreamed of being able to live with Toy Soldier in peace. That may change, but we know her dream right now is not about sailing. She also seems to add nothing in terms of personality right now, and her only quirk or redeeming feature is that she dresses so little and shows so much skin (which is probably the only reason anyone even wants her to join). How does she stand out from everyone in the arc? Almost every Straw Hat has stood out in one way or another, whether by Robin saving Luffy or Franky preventing Robin from being taken to teh other side.
Rebecca has never stood out in any way, apart from wearing so little. Toy Soldier's sole dream is for Rebecca to be safe and happy, former that she can't get by being with the Straw Hats and latter that she can get by being with the Straw Hats, if she can get over the separation. The only argument I have seen that works for Rebecca is that it's too early right now.
Kinemon without Momo has the highest joining probability, then a dwarf (Wicca or someone else), next is Violet. Bellamy will probably follow Barto who won't join but will be a trusted ally, Sabo, Momo and Rebecca have 0.1% joining. About toy soldier joins the SH ->
While Franky had people and a place to live with, his dream was about building ships and being in one. Rebecca on the other hand is all about Dressrosa and her family.
---------- Post added at 06:12 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:50 PM ----------
At the beginning of the Water 7 arc, the Strawhats said that they needed to add a Shipwright. It was revealed that they were looking for another crew member before they even arrived on the island. Adding a new crew member after Water 7 - Enes Lobby was not a surprise. It was quickly obvious that Franky would be that new crew member. Franky joining the crew had been carefully established since before his formal introduction.
Last edited by Kaiten; February 11, 2014 at 06:18 PM.
I was just saying that Franky wouldn't have joined unless circumstances forced him to. True, he had potential (except for being their enemy at the time), the fact remains he wouldn't have joined the Straw Hats if he hadn't been forced. The way I see it, circumstances will force Rebecca and her father to join the crew. While I know that a lot of you don't see Rebecca joining, she still fulfills criteria one of being a Straw Hat: a tragic past involving the death of a loved one. And before anyone points out Viola again, while she had a tragic past, it didn't involve someone close to her dying. Unless we see someone else's past like that, Rebecca's the closest there will be to a new crewmate.
Last edited by Kaiten; February 11, 2014 at 07:49 PM.