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Thread: Shin Prince of Tennis Chapter 115, 116 and 117 Discussion/Predictions

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    Shin Prince of Tennis Chapter 115, 116 and 117 Discussion/Predictions

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Chapter 115, 116 and 117 Discussion/Predictions

    Ryoma probably couldn't have forfeited against Yukimura since he can take away 5 senses so that'd include the ability to talk.

    In retrospect Yukimura's ability isn't really that impressive since it takes time for it to work whereas Byodouin just hits you with a ball and you lose all your senses immediately.

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Chapter 115, 116 and 117 Discussion/Predictions

    I'm willing to guess Ryoma would've been made to forfeit if he hadn't kept struggling.

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Chapter 115, 116 and 117 Discussion/Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaoz View Post
    Tokugawa got hit unconscious over and over and wasn't even allowed to forfeit until Oni and Irie stepped in. Slightly different situation from most previous cases in my opinion.
    What was stopping Tokugawa from saying "I forfeit", or having the common sense to simply wait for his serve and NOT SERVE and forfeit so the match is over.
    Not much different. Of course Tokugawa could have forfeited.

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Chapter 115, 116 and 117 Discussion/Predictions

    http://imgsrc.baidu.com/forum/w%3D58...ca7acbd505.jpg

    Seems pretty conscious to me. He was standing and holding his racquet, he could had just stepped out of the court lol.

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Chapter 115, 116 and 117 Discussion/Predictions

    Byoudouin was using a combination of face shots to knock him unconscious and body shots to wake him up through the pain. Thats what was in the text. He wasnt allowing Tokugawa to end the match or get off the court.
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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Chapter 115, 116 and 117 Discussion/Predictions

    So, he was able to knock his opponent and wake him up, without him dropping his racquet or falling at all?

    Byoudouin is awesome

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Chapter 115, 116 and 117 Discussion/Predictions

    It's actually decently ingenious and fun.

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Chapter 115, 116 and 117 Discussion/Predictions

    I think 'unable to forfeit' refers to the referee. If Tokugawa actually lost conscious then the ref would decide he forfeited. Of course Tokugawa could've forfeited on his own but I'm pretty sure most people would rather die than forfeit a game of tennis in POT.

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Chapter 115, 116 and 117 Discussion/Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Sai_the_Shaman View Post
    Byoudouin was using a combination of face shots to knock him unconscious and body shots to wake him up through the pain. Thats what was in the text. He wasnt allowing Tokugawa to end the match or get off the court.
    Exactly.
    This still doesn't explain that Tokugawa "couldn't forfeit".
    If the ball hits your body that's already a point forfeited.
    So after 4 body shots then that's game.
    Its implied Byoudouin dealt out plenty body shots.

    So Tokugawa must have had plenty opportunities to use his common sense and quit because it would have been HIS serve. He wasn't being forced to serve.
    Unless we're just going to theorize that Tokugawa was unconscious whenever it was service but still managed to serve perfectly despite being unconscious.

    Like Phantron said, its just customary to not forfeit in PoT.
    Unless you're Prefecturals!Fuji and feel and want to forfeit for your teammate because you have no feeling of pride when you play Tennis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardy View Post
    So, he was able to knock his opponent and wake him up, without him dropping his racquet or falling at all?

    Byoudouin is awesome
    Byoudouin is beyond awesome for this. My only issue is after the 4th shot, its his opponent's turn to serve and the rare case that his opponent has real world logic and common sense?
    Since with the common sense and reasoning from our world, you would forfeit on your service because you would have the justified fear of being repeatedly knocked unconscious. Oh well.

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Chapter 115, 116 and 117 Discussion/Predictions

    He's so good he forced Tokugawa to serve. Simple

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Chapter 115, 116 and 117 Discussion/Predictions

    There were five body shots shown, first one may have been game point on Tokugawa's serve and the remaining four Byoudouin's service game. That said, if the text implies he couldn't forfeit, then he probably couldn't forfeit.

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Chapter 115, 116 and 117 Discussion/Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaoz View Post
    There were five body shots shown, first one may have been game point on Tokugawa's serve and the remaining four Byoudouin's service game. That said, if the text implies he couldn't forfeit, then he probably couldn't forfeit.
    Lol, its like scenarios in the series before, Inui COULD have forfeited against Kirihara/Yanagi when DM!Kirihara dished out a can ass-whoop to Inui.

    There are mere implications that he couldn't forfeit but let's be serious. With a bit of common sense he or Kaidoh could have stopped and refused offer of ass-whoop on the menu.
    Mere implications don't really justify why Tokugawa didn't forfeit.
    What I do believe however, is that it was for his pride which I totally respect.
    Like how Tezuka put his future career on the line countless times, Tokugawa was just doing the same which is fine.

    But for it to be that it was simply impossible for him to quit? Nah. Makes no sense even by PoT logic.

    5 shots, unconscious first, then conscious 2nd, then unconscious 3rd, then conscious 4th, then unconscious 5th, realistically on the next shot Tokugawa should have had the gotdamn common sense to beg for his life and quit the match.

    However, pride in Japanese folklore and literature is on a completely higher level than Western culture since its in their philosophy.
    Seppuku and those kind of things etc.
    I'm not dissing Tokugawa for not being able to quit I guess I'm just confused at the characters in the PoT worlds inability to say "I forfeit".

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Chapter 115, 116 and 117 Discussion/Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Airgrimes View Post
    Lol, its like scenarios in the series before, Inui COULD have forfeited against Kirihara/Yanagi when DM!Kirihara dished out a can ass-whoop to Inui.

    There are mere implications that he couldn't forfeit but let's be serious. With a bit of common sense he or Kaidoh could have stopped and refused offer of ass-whoop on the menu.
    Mere implications don't really justify why Tokugawa didn't forfeit.
    What I do believe however, is that it was for his pride which I totally respect.
    Like how Tezuka put his future career on the line countless times, Tokugawa was just doing the same which is fine.

    But for it to be that it was simply impossible for him to quit? Nah. Makes no sense even by PoT logic.

    5 shots, unconscious first, then conscious 2nd, then unconscious 3rd, then conscious 4th, then unconscious 5th, realistically on the next shot Tokugawa should have had the gotdamn common sense to beg for his life and quit the match.

    However, pride in Japanese folklore and literature is on a completely higher level than Western culture since its in their philosophy.
    Seppuku and those kind of things etc.
    I'm not dissing Tokugawa for not being able to quit I guess I'm just confused at the characters in the PoT worlds inability to say "I forfeit".
    So you are perfectly fine accepting they are all trying to kill each other with tennis but the fact that nobody wants to quit baffles you?

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Chapter 115, 116 and 117 Discussion/Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Korean Kuroko View Post
    So you are perfectly fine accepting they are all trying to kill each other with tennis but the fact that nobody wants to quit baffles you?
    Well, it's PoT logic. I feel the same as him tbh, lol.

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Chapter 115, 116 and 117 Discussion/Predictions

    This is kind of like back when Kaidoh was playing Tezuka and people were commenting on how Kaidoh can't even quit if he wanted to. Of course he can quit if he want, by just not hitting the ball at all!

    I think it's funny how based on the first flashback when Tokugawa talked to Ryoma about how he lost to Byodouin, it looked like a standard 6-0 clownstomp, not "I almost didn't make it out with my life". Or maybe his head is so messed up he can't remember correctly anymore.

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