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Translations: Gintama 507 (2)
You bring up the fact that she failed at completely dodging the attack, but I think that probably isn't a good point to bring up. A scratch or a graze are methods from the writer to convey to the readers that somebody just avoided an attack that was really difficult to dodge. So the graze on her helmet is by my interpretation more of a sign that her dodging is superb than a complete miss would have been. The possible logic being that if it's that easy to dodge, it couldn't have been that fast an attack. The graze is precisely what conveys great dodging plus a difficult to dodge attack at the same time. It's a bit up to interpretation I guess, but I definitely wouldn't read it as a sign of her weakness at least.
I don't mind debating, don't worry, I'll take no offense.
Can someone tell me where the hell kinemon is???
You've read the chapter, we did read it too.Why do you ask when you already know that nobody will be able to give you a definite answer yet?
I just hope Sabo doesn't get the fruit. The reason for this is that he already came into the story in Ace's shadow. He was not a brother of Luffy or we didn't know about him until Ace died. If Sabo were to get the fruit, he would kind of become Ace #2, hurting both Ace's legacy and Sabo's. Sabo would be much better of with a different fruit or becoming like Raleigh over time. Having Ace power hurts his originality as the Fire Fire fruit was a part of Ace. NO TO SABO EATING IT! He can get it, just not eat it. He can give it to some other revolutionary. I would say Koala, but then fruits damage Fishman Karate.
Please, if you think that Rebeccas fighting Style of dodging suits a Logia you're sooo wrong...
- Logia makes her larger so makes dodging harder.
- Fire is an offensive ability and she wouldn't use it all
- Logias reserved for super strong people is partly so, they are strong because of the Logia
So please discuss this topic in the thread for it and only chapter and plot related stuff :P
^i think sabo doesnt even intend to eat it. He wants to give it to someone who can inherit aces will.
This was meant for fastfonz
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I have said that Rebecca showed skill here when she was able to react and dodge for the most part, but she will probably go up against fast opponents and opponents who can use haki. If her speed isn't fast enough to overcome opponent's Color of Observation or Luffy's level of speed/reaction, Rebecca will be in trouble.Quote:
Given that she was the only one to dodge or react to it, I actually it as a sign of skill on her behalf. I don't like Rebecca, but she doesn't get enough credit here. Luck did come into play, but only when Hakuba went to sleep.
Good to know, since I feel I get too aggressive when I debate.
She's willing to kill Doflamingo. Shows she's not entirely a pacifist. If she knows the truth, then that explains why she isn't hurting the gladiators: she doesn't blame them for the hate, it's Doflamingo's fault. She's still likely willing to hurt bad people.
True. Ace was already a strong fighter before he consumed mera mera no mi, and he kept up his fighting abilities, as Blackbeard exclaimed. I'm playing the devil's advocate here though, since I'm bored.
Do we know who the swordsman in Doflamingo's army is? If there is none, I can see Zoro fighting Pica as a challenge, or Pica being knocked out without too much of a difficult fight, and Zoro facing a swordsman opponent from any enemy group.
What does rebecca do in this page? Does she get hit by the bull?
After this saga, once Kaido is defeated, there is a good chance that Luffy becomes a target. At some point other crews will seek out the Strawhats. I imagine that if someone were looking for Luffy, they would be able to find him. Small crews either form alliances with big crews, or challenge them. Once the Strawhats defeat Kaido and his crew, they will be regarded as New World elite. At that point they will have allied crews, and they will have crews emerge to challenge them. At least one potential ally has emerged on Dressrosa.
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Pacifist gladiator is an oxymoron. It is impossible to be a pacifist and participate in combat sports. Her fighting style simply took advantage of her opponents over aggression, and the environment. Clobbering someone in the middle of the arena is a waste of time. Her style ensured a one shot KO.Quote:
Diamante is the swordsman.Quote:
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Luffy - Captain
Zorro - Swordsman
Sanji - Cook
Nami - Navigator
Usopp - Sniper
Chopper - Physician
Franky - Shipwright
Brook - Musician
Robin - Archeologist
Rebecca - the fearsome gladiator i can see some funny potential here
Even if she gets the Mera Mera and joins the crew I just hope that Sabo travels a little while with Luffy. It's about due we get some more info about Dragon and the Revolutionaries.
Hi to all been a while....
* Rebecca is caward? I mean wtf seriously? are we in.. Nevermind.. I dont think so. i think that is what called being smart.
*Burgess will eat or will take? I mean seriously does it matter? 'he is gonna take' it and take a picture with it! it does not matter whether some1 of BB's crew will eat or not. I'm referring to BB's speech.
* Luffy got mashed by walls? WTF is this? is this even a real fight? u cant hit Luffy with objects unless they are sharp or covered/embody with CoA . and for Zero he will just have to slice it up.
I think Zero is a better opponent for DD than luffy to DD.
Next chapter: we will c sanji. and we will c the Admiral doing some citizens saving.
Far future: Cavendish will like Luffy due to making Cavendish a person again. I mean he will eventually know that Luffy or the SHs were the one who saved him.
We will see some funny moments to epicly funny moment by Usopp interacting with the fairies/dwarves.
Last piece, since this county is one of the ancients Robin will find an ancient stone(poneglyph) contain some really exciting knows for us but for her it's known.
Kid and his alliance will be here soon on Dressrosa.
Big mom will be taken down this arc.
and that ramps the whole chapter short and ez. SHORT yeah right.
I'm getting the feeling that Zoro will tell Luffy to go on ahead while he deals with Pica, although he might double team him with Kin'emon. I don't know if this is a new challenge for Zoro since he already learned how to cut steel. This seems like a step backwards.
My problem with Rebecca is aesthetics. Her character design is too plain. Yes she is in a colosseum but other people in the colosseum have more interesting design. She wears plain scantily clad clothing, no interesting ability, and has a semi-linear poor princess narrative. Someone like Boney is more interesting but she has her own crew. To me it is not about how strong they are but about how interesting the character is and what inventive abilities they will have. However Oda could resort to interesting guy characters and women with big breast like other manga writers but hopefully he keeps being better than that. Lately Oda has made various female royalty members have observation haki.
Oda could add color to Rebecca over time and build her into a more three dimensional character but currently she seems too nice and simple to be a pirate and/or join the crew. Violet is a bit better since there is like to be cunning and there is some intrigue, but it would just just lead to Sanji fathering a child. DD already thought that Violet would make a better pirate. Having a child in the crew would be ok, but it seems harder to get to the One Piece with a baby on board. However Sanji could just act like a pirate and leave her pregnant with child. I imagine that what Sanji was thinking when Violet was reading his mind was probably RXXXMA^2 rated.
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