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I think you're mistaking Letzt Still for Vollstandig... Neither Kirge nor As Nodt, nor Bambietta, neither the guy Shunsui fought absorbed every spiritron/reishi particle next to them. We hardly saw ANYONE absorb ANYTHING while in Vollstandig. Kirge needed to use Sklaverei to actually absorb something. So far Vollstandig is Quincies' Bankai, but it's more simple. It just boosts basic abilities and their innate ability. In Ichigo's case, it just strengthened his basic skills. Kirge didn't have any reiatsu. Or do you want to tell me he was transcendental?Quote:
No, it was about killing a god, that Aizen wanted to be. It was about killing overpowered Aizen, who wanted to raise above all, be something else, a god, but was crushed by Ichigo, a "mere human".Quote:
Nah, that's what you wrote:Quote:
What Ichigo tanked with his arm was was Cero from Hollowfied Aizen. When you were talking about level 90 Kido you said he did it with his sword, so don't say you meant something else now. >.<Quote:
Kirge also has reiatsu wings, we can see reishi, yet noone could feel his reiatsu. Boom.Quote:
How could Aizen feel that it was Ichigo's sword that blew away the mountain? They both were slashing left and right. The mountain was blown when their swords clashed, energy had to escape elsewhere. I'd argue THEIR swords blew away the mountain.
The volstandig is simply a more advanced version of the lets stilt however the principle itself is the same. Volstandig is still simply the absortion of reishi taken to the maximum to do what you said, raise basic abilities and their techniques. Otherwise, where is the power coming from?
I got mixed up while writing but it adds up to the same. Ichigo still waved away a kido with his bare hands, stopped aizen's blade with his hands, tanked that blast with his arm and waved waved away the ring thingy with his sword. Aizen simply could not compete in a reiatsu match. Heck, what about the part when ichigo blew the mountain away (the one aizen thought he had blown away)? Why didn't aizen feel ichigo's power then if ichigo's power had actually done that? Because he simply could not perceive ichigo's power making a mountain disappear.
Yeah, from some source. That's why I said Ichigo has just an imitation of Vollstandig, not an actual Vollstandig. His power is coming from within. Other SRs...? Well, for all we've seen, NOT from outside. We think because it's called better Letzt Still, but it works nothing like LS. But we assume it must absorb something.Quote:
Disappear? The cut it. Their swords clashed, and the mountain next to them got hit with wind or whatever. Aizen could slash Komamura from 10 meters. I think it's hardly a feat.Quote:
But let's ignore that. It's a feat, all right. Feeling Ichigo's power? Mountain got blown away by energy from their swords.
Do you really think slashing the mountain HAD to be his reiatsu? No, it was a simple slash with a speed high enough to shoot an actual energy. Just like Ichigo attacked Ginjou with a slash that Ginjo thought was Getsuga. Shooting energy from the swords is old in this manga. Even Kenpachi can do it and crush Yami's jaw. Don't bother trying to make it significant.
Quincy powers work exclusively by absorbing and manipulating reishi. That applies to volstandig too, there is literally no reason for us to think otherwise. The vosltandig deviating from that would be completely inconsistent with the most basic things we know about how quincy powers work. Heck, the whole thing about there not being a reiatsu wave and kirge not having reiatsu was attributed to him absorbing power on the same chapter the volstandig was introduced.
My point is not about the feat in itself but rather the power that did it. The power that did it was reiatsu, the energy of their swords is reiatsu. Aizen was basically basking and fighting ichigo's reiatsu the whole thing and he still did not feel it. And I am not the one making it significant, ichigo made a point out of that saying it was his energy that blew the mountain away and that aizen had not notice ichigo's power was stronger than aizen's.
So Shirosaki also "sent" reiatsu through his sword when he slashed the ground?Quote:
By the way, next dimension talk
If you still think 2D and 3D talk was literal.
It was the same here. Reiatsu is a "fuel" for abilities. Shooting reiatsu from the tip is called GT. The force of the slash is just going elsewhere. If we look at their exchange that blew the mountain away we see that it must have been Ichigo's sword that blew it because of how it was cut. I'm talking about the angle.
Aizen could maybe do a crack on this page: http://www.mangastream.to/bleach-cha...31-page-9.html
And it's not like propelling air/wind is all that strange.
Remember Bleach Tournament, Barragan vs Unohana fight? They were all arguing Unohana can propel wind to kill Barragan and not to get close. You know, saying crap just for her to win because Barragan was simply TOO hax.
Last edited by Duniak; May 11, 2014 at 09:53 AM.
Okay, how about this for an idea folks???
So, within this possible scenario I'm tying together several of my theories; note that this is pure speculation bordering on fanfic;
- When Yhwach dies the Quincies lose their power.
- The Soul King is the progenitor of the Shinigami.
- Like Yhwach can do to the Quincies, the Soul King can take away the power of any Shinigami.
- The Soul King and Shinigami are both derived from Hollows (Shinigami are Hollows who have been purified when slain by a Zanpakutou).
- When the Soul King dies the Shinigami lose their power and are "unpurified" (i.e. they start to descend into Hollows again).
- When the Soul King dies, the Zanpakutou also becomes "unpurified" (i.e. the dead Shinigami souls that form it turn into dead Hollow souls).
- Soul Suicide is dangerous (e.g. the soul violently explodes, or something otherwise happens to it that endangers lives/structures around the soul in question).
So here's the ultimate showdown!!!...
First will be everything we've expected up to this point; Ichigo will go up to the Royal Dimension and defeat Yhwach, killing him in the process. However, this is where the uber-Ichigo shitstorm starts to happen!!! With Yhwach dead, Ichigo's Quincy powers disappear...problem; now that those powers are gone, Ichigo's soul has lost it's balance and Soul Suicide begins to occur...now this is a problem as Soul Suicide in a powerful individual such as Ichigo could destroy the Royal Dimension. Knowing this, the Soul King removes Ichigo's Shinigami powers...problem solved!
...Nope! Now, when a Shinigami's powers are removed, they revert back to their unpurified form; a Hollow. Ichigo's hair begins to turn white and his eyes begin to blacken. Good thing the Soul King's fast; he slices through Ichigo, seemingly bringing a quick end to his life...problem solved!
...Something's off though; hardly any power returned to the Soul King, and for some reason Ichigo's Zanpakutou still remains! Ichigo gets up, and he's pissed! Suddenly tears open up leading to Hueco Mundo, and masses of super-dense Reishi gush out, flying towards Ichigo. It appears as though White has not only managed to convert most of his Shinigami power to its own, but it's also managed to mimic his Quincy abilities; one being reishi absorbsion. As Ichigo accumulates power from every Hollow in existence, the Soul King's body is torn by the high-speed super-dense Reishi flying towards Ichigo! As the Soul King drops to his knees in awe, a fully-Hollowfied super-Menos Ichigo screams and delivers a killing blow...just as it seems that things can't get any worse, they do!!!
Now, remember that when the Soul King dies, Shinigami revert back to their Hollow selves? The Royal Dimension and the Soul Society begin to distort, and we see a familiar landscape begin to replace them...it seems as though it's not only the residents return to their former selves...the once peaceful environment transforms into Hueco Mundo! Furthermore, the Shinigami that are still alive become powerful Hollows; but don't worry, they won't exist for long...Ichigo absorbs them too!!! Crap, he's now a transcendent being due to the sheer amount of Spirit Energy he's consumed!!!!!
Now here's where some characters come into play that we may have forgotten...remember that Chad and (presumably) Inoue are FullBringers? Being as they're Human/Hollow hybrids residing on Earth, they haven't been affected by the turn of events that have just occurred! They're joined by Kugo, Giriko and Tsukishima!
And there's your final battle friends!!! The Fullbringers (which include Ichigo's friends) versus the ultimate Hollow death machine, Ichigo! One who protects, eh? How ironic...