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Thread: Elizabeth, Liz, and their (her?) connection to Meliodas and demons

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    Elizabeth, Liz, and their (her?) connection to Meliodas and demons

    Ever since Lizz was introduced something very obvious came to light, she looks exactly the same as Elizabeth, the adopted third princess who originated from danafor. Liz was not from danafor but she eventually joined their holy knight order and became meliodaz' lover.

    Elizabeth being exactly like her and being from danafor is obviously too much of a coincidence. More so, elizabeth has shown actual romantic feelings for meliodas. Another "coincidence" would be that the two just happened to randomly fall into where meliodas was. Assuming there is a relationship between them it would seem like fate itself actually works into bringing them together.

    Another interesting point is that Elizabeth is also part of the keys to release the demons. That is in itself a strange development considering the demons were sealed thousands of years ago. Which means liz either was at the sealing back then or became the key at some point or is descended from the key. Or perhaps she simply is the guardian of the key at least unknowingly. She has that earring which IMO has always been suspicious....

    Another interesting point is that Elizabeth seems to have memory issues for some reason. She had met the sins before but she seems to have no recollection of them at all (although she was very young back then). The sins seem to have some issues remembering elizabeth as a young princess to which is kinda weird too. Also, just when gowther mentioned elizabeth already met them meliodas conveniently appeared to change the topic a bit.

    Seeing everything my first thought would be that Elizabeth and lizz are in fact the same person. The issue here is how liz ended up as a young girl when she was originally a holy knight. At times the manga has shown elizabeth has the power to actually heal people (meliodaz and the doctor for example), perhaps that has something to do with her being young? Or perhaps she actually is somehow reborn into each age and meliodas is always right there ready to protect her. So she was made into the key or protector of the key or something and meliodas, bound to her by fate or a spell or something, appears during every life of her ready to protect her. Well, it would seem there is some inconsistency that would make this idea plausible right now (danafor would have had to be destroyed a year after liz' death for elizabeth's age to make sense).

    Then there is also the thought of just how elizabeth got to liones.... Danafor was destroyed by melidoas in his wrath but if that happened then how did elizabeth ended up in liones? The only person that could have taken her there would be meliodas. Which leaves the question, why did the king accept her and him into the order? Meliodas is a walking god of destruction, his actual true power easily exceeds anyone we have seen if he can actually turn an entire nation into a crater.

    So what is the deal? Are they the same person? Are they two different but related people?

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    Re: Elizabeth, Liz, and their (her?) connection to Meliodas and demons

    Elizabeth is most likely a descendant of the Goddess Clan. Liz was the incarnation before her and when one dies another must be reborn to take her place which is currently Elizabeth. Idk about how old Meliodas truly is or if he is the protector for each of these reincarnations. Maybe he was given the power of the demon to learn to control and help make sure they don't get released from their seal?

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    Re: Elizabeth, Liz, and their (her?) connection to Meliodas and demons

    You know, Diane's line is even more mysterious now in light of the recent chapter.

    She remembered some old man who gave her soup while she was ill years before as if it happened only recently, but can't remember Lioness' King's young daughter from 10 years ago?

    Then again, the Sins' history as a group is really sparse. They didn't even know Gowther's real appearance, they don't each other's pasts, etc. Ban kinda remembers Elizabeth and so do Meliodas and Gowther. They don't really have to even know the King's daughter, actually.
    Last edited by Samui; April 14, 2014 at 12:19 PM.

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    Re: Elizabeth, Liz, and their (her?) connection to Meliodas and demons

    Well, seeing the sins in general it does not seem like they were really friend with each other before they were set up. As you said, they know little of each other and keep a lot from them. They all were friends with meliodas in particular however they did not seem to be particularly close to each other. I guess that for most of them the sins were simply coworkers at best. To some degree it would make sense IMO. The sins existed as an organization for some years at best. Just look at diane and king... their very perception of time is different from humans, for them their tenure as members of the seven deadly sins must have been unbelievably short at best, a blink in their incredibly long lives in spite of still being apparently young by their standards. Would king and diane remember something that was such an insignificant instant in their lives?

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