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Thread: Magi 223 Discussion/224 Predictions

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    Re: Magi 223 Spoiler Thread

    I agree, Solomon is just too smart to act so oblivious in the end. That rebellion happened when Solomon was at the pinnacle of his political and physical might in the midst of a seemingly organized worldwide empire. Yet somehow an army capable of toppling it all just popped up out of nowhere and managed to summon Il Illa? We know what it takes to summon Illa in his depraved form, and Solomon's empire was actually the most ideal place to do it. If you can incite a massive race war right at the heart of everything, the amount of black ruhk that could be summoned just from that battle alone would almost certainly be enough of a catalyst even with a single medium. It seems a bit too convenient to me, and I have a feeling that Solomon realized this possibility somewhere along the way. He's always reading and seeking more knowledge, and you have to wonder why since he could technically unite the world with his current trajectory since he himself is become a known figure amongst all the species. Plus, isn't it funny how most of the world is under the resistance's control now yet we've not yet heard even a peep about what the resistance plans to do once the church is gone? Is Solomon simply the de facto ruler at the moment because otherwise who's in charge?

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    Re: Magi 223 Spoiler Thread

    I think the more Solomon becomes knowledgeable about the world, the more he becomes like his father.He's not even able to experience love, and almost feels jealous of his followers. At the end, when the world is completely rid of the Church's influence, Solomon will realize that the only way to protect what he achieved is to become king himself. I just wonder if he really doesn't want the other species to see him as a god, then why did he create a new world and pretty much became a god in the process?
    The question of the rukh is still not adressed properly. We're yet to see it in action.Maybe the way to summon Illa in Alma Torran is different than in the new world. After all in that world magic was much more powerful I think so it didn't need a great quantity of black rukh.

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    Re: Magi 223 Spoiler Thread

    You know considering the 'secret chapter' showed that David already knew about everything before Solomon was born I find it kindof amusing that no one has considered that Arba may have been placed as Solomon's servant 'purposely'. For all we can tell she is simply playing her part (fate) under King Davids command.

    ...each chapter seems to spawn a new theory, each chapter seems to slay an old theory. Curses!
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    Re: Magi 223 Spoiler Thread

    Here are the translations of Aegon: http://mangahelpers.com/t/aegon-rokudo/releases/39741

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    Re: Magi 223 Spoiler Thread

    I have a feeling that when Arba says "marry Solomon for all your life" it doesn't mean marrying him literally lol.Sheba could have misinterpreted her words.If Arba was created to serve Solomon I don't see her betraying him, but is it possible that she could be controlled in some way by the Church? Well I have a feeling that next chapter we'll see a fallout between Arba and Sheba. Now that research that Ugo is doing got me really interested.

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    Re: Magi 223 Spoiler Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by ladylola View Post
    I have a feeling that when Arba says "marry Solomon for all your life" it doesn't mean marrying him literally lol.Sheba could have misinterpreted her words.If Arba was created to serve Solomon I don't see her betraying him, but is it possible that she could be controlled in some way by the Church? Well I have a feeling that next chapter we'll see a fallout between Arba and Sheba. Now that research that Ugo is doing got me really interested.
    Arba was not created to serve him because she is the oldest of the group. She could even be his mother if she is older than ugo who is 60 years old.

    By the way, considering the mommy issues that ohkata has, it would be hillarious if arba is both gyoukuen and solomon's mother.

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    Re: Magi 223 Spoiler Thread

    Do you know what I want? Gyokuen being a fusion between Sheba and Arba souls. That would be totally interesting! XD

    Haha, yeah. I'm wondering how old is Arba? Maybe 200 or 300 years or even older? Hmm... anyway, ages does not really matter at all (especially the Toto and Olba relationship, lol). But as Ladylola already mentioned, I'm curious about the research of Ugo-kun that he is doing, too. What I'm also curious about is how their sister relationship of Sheba and Arba will fall apart. It feels like that this week will be a long week... oh well, I just really hope that the new chapter will be next week and not having a break. Waiting one week kills me but waiting for two weeks is like if people hate me (not literally, just jk).
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    Re: Magi 223 Spoiler Thread

    Pardon me for not back reading... too lazy to read all the posts :P

    Anyway, to me it seems like this love triangle-thing has been given some focus as the arc goes, aside from the truth about David and Illah and the destruction of Alma Torran. It seems like Sheba, Solomon and Arba's relationship would have to do with whom will be that traitor magi. The title seemed to be very suspicious too. It makes me think of who will be the one to betray Solomon. I can't help but think that Arba might betray Solomon by making an alliance with the Church. She did say that she came from a line of magicians(?) to serve the royal family/the higher ups. She was even alive before Solomon was born (she was the eldest among SOlomon's crew, maybe older than Ugo). But there's this possibility that Sheba could be the traitor magi as everybody knows. She must have turned against Solomon and Arba because of that broken promise, or worse... Others may see that the love triangle issue is pointless, but to me it seems very important for the arc to progress

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    Re: Magi 223 Spoiler Thread

    Yeah I don't think that the relationship between those three would have been highlighted for no reason .It must be important to understand how Sheba came to betray Solomon, if indeed she's Gyokuen. Also I forgot about Arba's age, so she might not have been created to serve Solomon specifically, but she took on that role because she was told to, which makes me wonder if she's really trustworthy.But when we saw her with Ugo as she seemed to be crying on his shoulder it looked like she was horrified about what happened to Sheba and the others, so maybe she didn't do it on purpose after all.

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    Re: Magi 223 Spoiler Thread

    Guys, do you think Aladdin's birth will be as special as that of Sinbad ?
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    Re: Magi 223 Spoiler Thread

    ....No because he's not a singularity.

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    Re: Magi 223 Spoiler Thread

    Alma Toran didn't even have any Magi as we know them because as it's been said we don't even know the nature of ruhk and magoi in Alma Toran so there is nothing that implies that a single magician aside from David is special. Solomon's world is the only one that makes special magicians who utilize ruhk in a unique way, and Aladdin's special role only seems to be the fact that he was chosen to do something new on behalf of Solomon by being given access to Solomon's wisdom and not the power of a singularity. And Solomon only seemed to allow Aladdin to be born into his world at the time the dungeons came to be, so it's kind of Yunan's fault Aladdin was born...

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    Re: Magi 223 Spoiler Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by ladylola View Post
    ....No because he's not a singularity.
    Is it necessary to be a singularity in order to be ''special'' ? ... I do not think so.
    David refered to Solomon in the last chapter as a ''being'' chosen by destiny, and he was the most powerful magician in Alma Toran's entire history.
    BTW, David claimed that :
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    No matter how the magic techniques will become more sophisticated, a magic capable of predicting the future will never appear.
    but, I think Solomon will eventually reach the level of omniscience with his ''unique'' wisdom as we already know. Aladdin is still unable to bring Solomon's wisdom to its full extent.
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    Re: Magi 223 Spoiler Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Schneider View Post
    Is it necessary to be a singularity in order to be ''special'' ? ... I do not think so.
    David refered to Solomon in the last chapter as a ''being'' chosen by destiny, and he was the most powerful magician in Alma Toran's entire history.
    BTW, David claimed that :

    but, I think Solomon will eventually reach the level of omniscience with his ''unique'' wisdom as we already know. Aladdin is still unable to bring Solomon's wisdom to its full extent.
    You said "like Sinbad". Sinbad's birth was sensed throughout the world by Gyokuen, Scheherazade, Mogamett and Yunan which can be considered the strongest magicians or magis of their era. When Aladdin came to the world Solomon created, other than the fact that he's a magi, he had nothing special about him. He only knew how to use heat magic, but because he's able to borrow magoi from the rukh, he was above an average magician. When he fought against Judal he got his ass kicked, and if it weren't for Ugo he would have been killed. He lost Ugo but acquired Solomon's wisdom whose true potential has yet to be shown.
    Did Gyokuen and co sense it when Aladdin came to the new world? I don't think so.So sorry he's in no way like Sinbad.I'm not saying that he's weaker than him, I'm saying that both are special but in different ways.
    You seem to think that Aladdin as Solomon's son/proxy/clone/reincarnation/incarnation or whatever is powerful just like Solomon. I disagree. The manga showed Aladdin's evolution from a kid who could borrow magoi from the rukh and do some simple magic, to a magician who is able to do great magic spells without the help of the rukh. He had to train in Magnostadt to be at the level he is now, and he prolly has to study more in the future. Aladdin isn't as broken as Solomon, but in the future I can see him become a powerful magi. Again the only thing that was special about him is that he's a magi, who acquired the unique power of Solomon's wisdom. This is not Naruto or OP or Bleach where one of the main characters starts spewing awesome techniques out of the blue. There's clearly an evolution in terms of strength and techniques, and the author wants us to see that evolution .

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    Re: Magi 223 Spoiler Thread

    I didn't say that Aladdin as Solomon's son/proxy/clone/reincarnation/incarnation or whatever IS powerful just like Solomon ... but rarther ''WILL'' be as powerful as solomon progressivly. Solomon himself said that he was foolish when he was a kid (kind of the current Aladdin) ... Hence, I think a 17 yo Aladdin will be able to manipulate the very fabric of the world as well as the fundamental laws of physics just like Solomon.. and so on.
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    It's normal that no one sensed Aladdin when he came to this world, just like how Sinbad has never been sensed after that moment of his birth. What shows whether a person is a special being or not is his birth moment, and that's why I can't wait to see Aladdin's
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