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So I'm just curious if anyone else has seen a parallel between the two stories here.
The Joker in the Dark Knight was only known by that alias in the Underground Crime World until he decided to surface.
Doflamingo is known as Joker in the Underground Crime World in OP.
Joker in the Dark Knight says "A person dies every day until Batman turns himself in.", "If this man is not dead in an hour I'm going to blow up a hospital.", "Whichever boat blows the other one up first wins. If the time limit is reached, everyone dies."
Joker in OP now has a scheme very similar in nature to the evil shown by DC's Joker.
Find it funny since I've never seen him mention it as an inspiration (Doflamingo seems to be a very big deal).
It might be the plan that was the inspiration, but not the character, Oda had Doflamingo and his character in mind since very far back, before the movie came up. At least we know he had him figured out since his introduction in Jaya, and even after Sky island where we got a glimpse of his powers.
DD in One Piece is completely different to the joker in the Dark Knight.
DD is shrewd. He has an ambition to become a pirate king, and he is slowly planning to obtain mass power for that. He cares about consequences, studies the world carefully, and respect how things generally work. He is actually a very pragmatic person.
Joker in TDK is spontaneous who doesn't give a fck who he pisses off.
If Joker in TDK is DD, he'd already have fought with Kuzan all out
Also if DD is joker in TDK, he'd definitely have taken down batman already.
Bellamy The Hyena= his loyal Hyena pet
Whos the batman? luffy? sabo? or geko moria?
Last edited by Don Chinjao; April 26, 2014 at 01:36 AM.
No it's not, Skypiea had a similar plot with the cage and was released in 2002/2003, while Dark Knight came out 2008. If anything it was Nolan that stole from other works. Pay more attention to the manga you are reading please.
Him being called Joker works perfectly as he has the whole card deck theme going on.
Oda was influeced by Romancing SaGa 2 with Mingo as every other Shichibukai being influenced by Bokhohn of The Seven Heroes:
Last edited by Schabrak; April 26, 2014 at 08:13 AM.
Batman has been a comic long before the appearance of the Dark Knight, so it wouldn't be strange if Oda-sensei's work was influenced a little by the comic.
And now reply to the part of the cage in Skypiea, as that's the main point of my post.
The thread starter seems to be paying very good attention to the manga, I don't think any of his initial post has some sort of glaring idea that can't possibly be true. I'm not sure that I'd say that Doflamingo was based totally on the Joker from the very beginning since the term joker hasn't even been mentioned until recently (and the thread starter never quite said that either). The main question in his post was about a scheme Doflamingo has cooked up literally in the last chapter so mentioning anything from previous arcs means very little. We really didn't know much of anything about Doflamingo other than his ability to control people before this arc, so any real development of his character began with this arc. Oda could very well have been inspired by the Dark Knight, or even the Joker in general there's nothing crazy or bad about that theory.
I just don't see Dark Knight as the ultimate source. The Joker was a full character before TDK, so yes 'Joker' might very well stem from him, and pitting different parties against each other is nothing new either.
No I don't see a definite connection.
I think the name "Joker" is based off how carefree he is, and how he makes light of fights against worthy fighters. He toys,taunts, and enjoys manipulating the feelings and lives of people--which is probably why he has the string string fruit (puppeteer--manipulating)