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I'm rereading the marine ford arc, and I see this,
she's talking to kizaru almost like an equal, so I'm wondering, is she really that strong? And if she is, then how strong is Sabo?
If he\she had the strength of an admiral he/she would have been in level 6 of Impel down not level 5.
It is very possible Ivankov has the same strength/power as an admiral, but I doubt it solely because the admirals are supposed to be pretty powerful.
Well I don't think that Ivankov is as strong as an admiral. He is strong, I guess a little bit weaker than an admiral would fit.
Vhe is surely strong, but Admirals are supposed to be on a whole different level. So I disagree. Next time Ivankov clashes with an Admiral, vhe won't be as lucky.
Where exactly do you see him talking to Kizaru as if they're equal...?
Anyhow, no. He isn't even close to Admiral level. Remember how Akainu run past him with ease, leaving him to die? (he survived, but still)
At no point Oda depicted him as anywhere near the Admirals' level.
I doubt she's at admiral level, but she could very well be at vice admiral level or above, but not admiral yet.
I think we have yet to see how the revolutionary army stands against the "balance of power" concept, maybe they are some hidden power? And thus I find it hard to compare admiral and revolutionary which is in a high place, rather it is easier to make some comparison between admiral and yonko. But if we can view the balance I somehow see an admiral being stronger than Iva, given everything we have seen from him/her.
I'd say she's probably beneath the Admirals in strength, but at the same time far superior to the overwhelming majority of VAs. She's a formidable force, although her main talent seems to her ability to survive.
I don't know but for me it seemed like Ivankaov took the whole war as a joke. After the war we learnt that even Marci didn't go all out during the war. And Ivankov even though he clashed with Akainu and Megallan head on is one of the few persons who left the war unscatched.
I believe that once Ivankov joins a battle that Dragon is taking part in then we will see the true strength of him.
I don't see how ivankov could be at the level of the admirals... Ivankov is without a shred of a doubt a powerful person however the strength levels possible are vast and wide. Just look at luffy and law... Luffy acquired the strength to stand up to and even match jinbe yet in his confrontation with doflamingo doflamingo easily got the upperhand. Law is powerful enough to be a proper shichibukai and even then he does not seem to hold a candle over doflamingo. They got to where they are but are ultimately still far from powerful enough to actually be able to face the top of the world. Ivankov is perhaps comparable or slightly weaker than jinbe IMO however that still puts him pretty far away from an admiral.
That said the shishibukai level/tier is especially tricky to use as a comparison because of its huge discrepancies in power within the shishibukai.
Of course since it is One Piece we are talking about using tiers/levels to compare characters powers is not easy since there are many circumstantial things to consider.
I don't think he is even close. Akainu completely fodderized him in their short clash, and Magellan had no trouble with him either.
Iva is between admiral and vice admiral… definitely not on admiral level…