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Translations: Gintama 507 (2)
The name "Allen" and how Nea informed about Allen is important.
Why the dog was named "Allen"? Because if it wasnt, Allen wouldnt be Allen now, he probably would had die in the streets (because Cross wouldnt had take him, because he was not Allen). So this is all important
And Nea, how he got to tell Cross about Allen? He was dying when he was with PastAllen. Maybe he had a plan and knew PastAllen (and obviusly informed Cross about all, obviusly before he died)? If Nea could inform Cross about Allen, he could inform to Mana about Allen too
I don't know if this is relevant or just a coinsidense but the name "Allen" seems to be a code to identify Nea's second host because if you reverse the name Allen and remove the two II this is the result: Nea II but like I said this might be a coinsidence
@JDSS Alexgamer155 means the spelling of the name Allen has significance.
He's saying the Allen's name, when you rearrange the letters, spells out NEA LL
the L's could be spelled like this: ll and then they could be read as the roman numeral for the word 2.
Meaning that Allen is the second Nea or Nea the Second.
Last edited by anyoneforthe; June 26, 2014 at 06:55 PM.
That's what I was trying to say thanks.
Yeah yeah I know, but he said "Nea's second host", and Allen is Nea's first host, if Nea=14th. Maybe you dont agree with Nea=the 14th theory, and this is why we said different things
And about the codename yes, it can be a code to know who is the host of Nea, "the second Nea" like you said.
but well, the mistery of the dog named Allen and Nea telling about Allen, why just to Cross, and how if he was dying and didnt know Allen isn't resolved
Last edited by JDSS; June 27, 2014 at 11:32 AM.
I don't know guys I still don't fully trust the de aging theory ever since I saw that grown up
Allen I had this hunch that's kinda been gnawing me from the inside I know this might sound bananas but I think that grown up Allen is the father of our protagonist or not either way at this point I don't even know what to believe anymore.
Last edited by alexgamer155; June 27, 2014 at 02:51 PM.
Anyway, other thing is Apo, there is the theory that he found Allen and was him who delete his memories (about becoming younger nothing)
alexgamer155 please, do other thread, this is going off topic, we are threading about PastAllen, and not about the two things that all we have to thread here.
It can sounds rude, but not, it would be good if you do other thread
The history of past Allen is unknown, so it could possibly be a coincidence that past!Allen is called Allen.
Another possibility is that past!Allen was picked off the streets, and did not have a name originally. past!Allen took on the name Allen aka Nea ll when he decided he would the 14th next host.
And so, Allen is named for dog!Allen ,who is named for past!Allen.
Allen and past!Allen are same person going off the Musician's song, which talk about rebirth. The mention of silver eyes points towards Allen, and the image of particles in shape of a cross imply innocence had something to do with Allen's rebirth. In recent chapters, Nea thinks Allen's been de-aged, and believes apo might have something to do with it.
You could also see the II as Neah's 2nd life right?
1) Past!Allen originally didn't have a name.
2) Past!Allen was picked up from somewhere and was eventually given the name "Allen", probably either by Mana or Nea.
3) After the event of 35 years ago, Mana adopts a dog and names it "Allen" because he somehow remembers that name.
4) Mana re-names Red, "Allen" because of the dog.
So, it's not that Past!Allen named the dog, "Allen". Mana named the dog "Allen" based on Past!Allen. And great. I just spoiled a bit of my theory. ....