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Thread: Why are most of the Sternritter Insane ?

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    Why are most of the Sternritter Insane ?

    Do they have an insanity gene?
    Did they live too long in a closed space?

    Seriously why???

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    Re: Why are most of the Quincy Insane ?

    Well, the obvious answer is juhabach. I would think he simply modeled them after the original gotei 13 which were also supposedly murderous thugs. Perhaps the case can be made that the piece of juhabach's soul within them has influenced them that way. They have a very strong link to juhabach because of the letter, it would not be weird if he can influence them to some extent into loosing their mind.

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    Re: Why are most of the Quincy Insane ?

    Probably because these are the only type of people Juha could convince to join him seeing as how he was carrying them off to war where many of them would likely die. In fact, he is counting on them dying so he can gain more power.
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    Re: Why are most of the Quincy Insane ?

    If you spend a millenium [or far less] within your Schattenreich, chances increase of you becoming a bit weird.
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    Re: Why are most of the Quincy Insane ?

    Because they are the bad guys.

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    Re: Why are most of the Quincy Insane ?

    Juha Mother Effin' Bach.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeta42 View Post
    Because they are the bad guys.
    Gin, Starrk, and Harribel say otherwise. As well as the non Sternritter Quincy, such as Uryu, Ryuuken, Souken, Masaki, and their family (I hope). We don't know much about Katagiri, but she seemed nice enough. Maybe she was a wild child in the bedroom.
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    Re: Why are most of the Quincy Insane ?

    Unlike the Gotei 13 I guess the Quincy have never been in peacetime, they've been living in the shadows of their enemy waiting for their king to come back so they can kill them off. Essentially they've been living for the sole purpose of war for years. Also Yhwach bred this environment where if you talk out of turn you'll get an arm blown off, if you achieve anything less than perfect success you'll get executed and if a superior officer feels like killing you to blow off some steam it's just fine, despite the weird claims of him "loving peace".

    Not all of them are that mental though, Cang Du, Commissioner Gordon and Askin seem pretty sane, not nice guys, but sane. They're merciless to Shinigami but most Shinigami seem pretty merciless themselves.
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    Re: Why are most of the Quincy Insane ?

    it does seem that most of them are crazy, but it wouldnt be nearly as fun if they were all normal nice people

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    Re: Why are most of the Quincy Insane ?

    Quote Originally Posted by eefrit View Post
    Gin, Starrk, and Harribel say otherwise. As well as the non Sternritter Quincy, such as Uryu, Ryuuken, Souken, Masaki, and their family (I hope). We don't know much about Katagiri, but she seemed nice enough. Maybe she was a wild child in the bedroom.
    I'll elaborate. For a long time, I thought that most Sternritters would survive the war and live the rest of their lives free from Yhwach, because they would have some redeeming traits and earn a bright future of freedom and peace. Little by little, my hope was crushed: as they got more screentime, they showed nothing more than being generic villains. They kill Shinigami, they kill each other, and they even backstab their own comrades for no reason other than being evil. And now half of them is dead.

    They are like that because they are bad guys, and they are bad guys because they are like that. Much to my disappointment, that's all there is to them.

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    Re: Why are most of the Quincy Insane ?

    I was thinking that the title of the thread should be changed to sternriter or wandenreich rather than quincy. I think that would work better here. Thoughts?

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    Re: Why are most of the Quincy Insane ?

    Quote Originally Posted by kkck View Post
    I was thinking that the title of the thread should be changed to sternriter or wandenreich rather than quincy. I think that would work better here. Thoughts?
    Not a bad idea. The implied people are all members of Vandenreich, anyway.

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    Re: Why are most of the Sternritter Insane ?

    Who is sane in the Bleach manga anyway? I suppose everyone does have a certain degree of "insanity" or some call it "strange" in one way or another. The term "weirdo" seems to be widely used. lol

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    Re: Why are most of the Sternritter Insane ?

    Thanks for the title change. That's exactly what I meant.

    As much I love action, little is revealed about each individual sternritter. Yes, it makes them look generic. One would think Kubo sensei just wants to quickly end Bleach and move onto another...
    We are left speculating. For example: During the last war, crazy cross-dressing sternritter saw boys killed left and right. Only girls are spared (and used for pleasure by shinigami, but still spared). Thus, he became obsessed with being a girl.

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    Re: Why are most of the Sternritter Insane ?

    Suppose that there are quite a lot of Quincy in the Wandenreich, since afterall, they seem to have normal life spans, and they need to reproduce somehow (We haven't even seen any children yet, so there has to be some Quincy not taking part in the war).
    We also saw alot of weak foot soldiers from Wandenreich, which indicates a hole society behind it, and not only a pure military like Gotei 13, who relies on dead souls and not reproduction.

    On the other hand, Wandenreich doesn't have a recruiting system anywhere similar to that of Soul Society (recruiting dead souls with powers), they seem to have normal life spans, and a ton of them foot soldiers in quantities.
    We can also assume that perhaps, only perhaps, Sternritters are as rare as a Lieutenant/Captain, and as such, it'd take quite a lot of Quincies to produce a strong Sternritter.
    Albeit there are a few more Sternritters around, but some of them seem to be Lieutenant level + the power boost given from Juha bach, which could put them closer to that of a Captain, anyway, just guesswork at this point.

    Well, putting it all frankly, not all Quincies may be feeling to be part of this war, some factions i.e. may be against Juha Bach (If they could survive that I suppoose), but perhaps they could get away with it with not wanting to fight.
    (Another possibility could be that Juha's power boost drives them crazy, but that means Uryuu Ishida should be as well by now, I wonder).

    Then there is also the whole revenge thing, or going crazy from a disfunctional society in the shadows as others have mentioned already.

    Finally, Juha may just prefer nutjubs

    The most importnat factor in all of this, I think, is that when Ichigo will unite Hollows/Arrancars, Quincy, Shinigami/Vizards, Humans and Fullbringers, (Seems obvious that he will, especially due to his name, massive hint, imho), he will need to be able to find some Quincy who is not a lost cause, who better than a faction not wanting to be part of Jura's warmachine?

    If anything, there is bound to be more Quincy around similar to Soken.

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    Re: Why are most of the Sternritter Insane ?

    Bleach is full of wackjobs. It's why I like so many of the characters lol. Not everyone in the Gotei 13 is "playing with a full deck of cards" either I suppose lol. But the Stern Ritter definitely have a lot more crazy people. I wonder how Ishida feels about this. One interesting thing I've noticed is not a single Stern Ritter yet so far has talked about the "pride of the Quincy." I hope Kubo addresses Ishida's thoughts about meeting Quincy outside of his family. The Ishida family might be different from the other Quincy, but if so I wonder if Ishida was even aware.

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