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Natsu is END.. he is 800+ years old and zeref knew him already..
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Knowing that end is a flame demon it stands to reason that there is some special significance to him and natsu, at least a deeper one than what was already implied. That said, natsu does not have to be that powerful either. If end is a flame demon the stage is already set so that natsu can defeat him seeing that end's magic won't have much of an effect on natsu. Which is an advantage igneel probably didn't have as consuming elements for power is a slayer type deal, it is not something kept by the original species. In other words end can only strengthen natsu while his flames would indeed hurt igneel who couldn't end flames (unless igneel knew slaying magic). And natsu also has the means to absorb any fire, he can always repeat the zancrow thing of emptying his magic container (now he has second origin to boot) and combine it with his own magic. I bet we are seeing the dragon demon's lightning flame soon enough lol.
She got absorbed and then she used the power of "love" to somehow defeat Keith from the inside...
That's probably, IMO, the worst fight since the beginning of this manga.
And it sucks because I really like Juvia and I was really eager to see her shine in a real battle...
Though about Gray, I hope that this "memento" should I say, he received from his father is going to be permanent and not just for this fight, I always thought of him having a serious power-up but I think we'll just kind of wait and see. Even though it is kind of an assumption, who knows if Silver didn't have a tattoo on his arm just like Gray, we couldn't see because he wore long-sleeved clothing and gloves but as I've said it's just an assumption. Gray will have to perform his Slaying type techniques like Ice Devil's Rage... or whatever other techniques. I can't really imagine that a demon taught Silver this magic tbh. Just like God slaying magic, Devil slaying magic is probably self-taught so I think that Gray may learn about the new magic he received by learning how to use it against the remaining members of the Nine Ghost Gates.
Really... I don't see any better than Tempesta and Torafusa in this case, they are going to be good training dummies and I suspect that Gray will one-shot them leaving Natsu with a jealous expression.
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As more and more revelations are revealed, E.N.D seems closer and closer to Natsu. How did Zeref knew of Natsu's existence in the first place...? Zeref knowing of Natsu's existence and I believe that E.N.D will be Natsu's first big obstacle as a result. At first, it will be Gray & Natsu vs E.N.D and then, Natsu vs E.N.D. Natsu will manage to pull it off but if anything, I think he'll need to get a big power-up so as to be able to do so.
Last edited by Rikudobito; July 25, 2014 at 02:21 PM.
But, if Natsu really is E.N.D., the strongest demon that Zeref has made, why does Zeref want Natsu to kill him? Did he create END JUST for that purpose?
Juvia fight was cra...
Probably worse fight so far. No i cant kill you, no , no. Die mothe......er
About Natsy being E.N.D, if he's E.N.D shouldnt rest of those demon knew that he's their master.
E.N.D could be something similar like Gray father
Juvia better get laid after this, this time she really deserved it Gray needs to man up for real now
Otherwise, meh. Since for me the only good thing about this manga aside from the epic art is character interactions and relationships, I long since stopped ranting about the crappy plot. Nothing is perfect after all (yes, not even FMA ).
Well I predicted that 100%... Oh well.
That was pretty anti-climactic. I really have no idea how Juvia managed to get inside of Keith. It is a pretty cool way to kill someone, but shouting about feelings and bonds while crying after doing that kind of ruins the brutality. Everything else about the fight was completely uninteresting. What does Keith even DO anyway? I get it, he raises people from the dead, but what was up with the black sand he was using and turning into? And if he's made of it then why didn't he just turn back into it when Juvia got inside him.
Gray just gets Ice Devil Slayer magic from Silver, apparently you can just give it away like a gift card...and E.N.D. is a flame demon. Maybe there really is a connection with Natsu then. So many people have been predicting that though, I'd prefer something surprising.
Also Tartaros, it's great that you knew Silver was acting against you, but that doesn't really make you look any less dumb lol.
Last edited by exacta; July 25, 2014 at 05:06 PM.
I'm thinking about something..take a look at this :
Early Nasu design :
The first version of Natsu was supposed to have horns,maybe it was his link with the dragons or maybe demons...
In any case i really love the theory "Nasu = END" and for some reason when think about nastu/demon i'm thinking about this :
I'm overthinking too much about this and the truth about end will be really simple
Last edited by KOrto; July 25, 2014 at 07:11 PM.
this manga is absolute garbage.
Shimon said that Igneels flames destroy all evil so after Igneel finshed E.N.D the demon Natsu came out to be the human form of E.N.D and additionaly he was a little kid too. That is probably why Igneel couldn't bring himself to kill E.N.D.
If Zeref wants to die why don't he face Acnologia? I mean Acnologia seems eager to kill Zeref even appearing where Zeref appears and destroying everything. Additionaly Zeref is scared of Acnologia so Acnologia should be more than capable to kill him.