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Thread: "Suwappu no basho" - Swap Places in Japanese - Sasuke's One Ability and it's Limits

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    "Suwappu no basho" - Swap Places in Japanese - Sasuke's One Ability and it's Limits

    1) I believe there is a cool down time, because if their wasn't he could do multiple switches at a time to reach to a far location.
    2) Sasuke's ability is on the same transmission speed as Minato and Tobirama's.
    3) Sasuke's ability does not require a weapon or a touch with a seal in order for the transmission to work, whereas Minato and Tobirama's does.
    4) Sasuke's ability is limited in distance whereas Minato and Tobirama's are unlimited in distance.
    5) For Sasuke's transmission to work, his left eye has to view an object or simply an area for him to switch places with. It's weak in that respect if you can blind that one sharingan eye from seeing a location.
    6) He cannot switch places with his eyes closed.
    7) There may be another cool down time for how many times he can use the ability in general...seeing as how he had to close his eye when Naruto re-made Kakashi's eye.



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    Re: "Suwappu no basho" - Swap Places in Japanese - Sasuke's One Ability and it's Limits

    That seems pretty accurate so far. I expect we're likely to see a bit more of the ability, and maybe get some specifics. There are a few questions remaining about the ability that I'd like to see addressed, particularly its limits.

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    Re: "Suwappu no basho" - Swap Places in Japanese - Sasuke's One Ability and it's Limits

    You seem to have hit the nail on the head, however we also need to assume it's also a lot like Obitos jutsu. Seeing as its a teleportation, and yet solely sharingan/rinnegan mix eye jutsu that can only be done so many times, we have to assume it must be another eye jutsu that is similar to that of Obitos seeing as only he has been the only one with a similar power. Sure the teleportation is a lot like Minatos and Tobiramas, however without signs, and a closer look at when it can be used, it's tied to the eye. When his chakra levels lowered in the fight with Kaguyu, the left eye reverted back into mangekyo sharingan, and we didn't see another teleportation, until it was back. So it has to be linked to Obitos eye prowess right?

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    Re: "Suwappu no basho" - Swap Places in Japanese - Sasuke's One Ability and it's Limits

    Quote Originally Posted by narutotheory View Post
    1) I believe there is a cool down time, because if their wasn't he could do multiple switches at a time to reach to a far location.
    2) Sasuke's ability is on the same transmission speed as Minato and Tobirama's.
    3) Sasuke's ability does not require a weapon or a touch with a seal in order for the transmission to work, whereas Minato and Tobirama's does.
    4) Sasuke's ability is limited in distance whereas Minato and Tobirama's are unlimited in distance.
    5) For Sasuke's transmission to work, his left eye has to view an object or simply an area for him to switch places with. It's weak in that respect if you can blind that one sharingan eye from seeing a location.
    6) He cannot switch places with his eyes closed.
    7) There may be another cool down time for how many times he can use the ability in general...seeing as how he had to close his eye when Naruto re-made Kakashi's eye.



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    What I would like Kishi to do is set some ground rules for this ability. I mean he could replace Naruto's (random example) clothes with Amaterasu? If he can change positions with Sakura's vest why not change make Amaterasu change position with Naruto's clothes?

    PS. Many believe its not limited on switching places with other objects. Changing position just increases its range.
    Last edited by xXan; August 23, 2014 at 03:44 AM.

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    Re: "Suwappu no basho" - Swap Places in Japanese - Sasuke's One Ability and it's Limits

    From what we know of:

    - Sasuke can switch the places of two objects, including people of himself;
    - Sasuke can move instantly, or appears to do so;
    - It's necessary to have eye contact, similar to the Mangekyou Sharingan;
    - The ability has an effective range, as explained by madara;
    - It probably has some cooldown, as Sasuke uses it sporadically;
    - It may be possible that the switching bodies must be of similar sizes.
    Quote Originally Posted by IChallengeYou! View Post
    TOBI IS OBITO

    did you say something about timelines?! naruto ate it NOM NOM NOM IT'S GONE.

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    Re: "Suwappu no basho" - Swap Places in Japanese - Sasuke's One Ability and it's Limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Fox666 View Post
    From what we know of:

    - Sasuke can switch the places of two objects, including people of himself;
    - Sasuke can move instantly, or appears to do so;
    - It's necessary to have eye contact, similar to the Mangekyou Sharingan;
    - The ability has an effective range, as explained by madara;
    - It probably has some cooldown, as Sasuke uses it sporadically;
    - It may be possible that the switching bodies must be of similar sizes.
    Your last point. He switched places with Sakura's vest. Obviously her vest is not of the same size as Sasuke.

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    Re: "Suwappu no basho" - Swap Places in Japanese - Sasuke's One Ability and it's Limits

    Quote Originally Posted by narutotheory View Post
    1) I believe there is a cool down time, because if their wasn't he could do multiple switches at a time to reach to a far location.
    2) Sasuke's ability is on the same transmission speed as Minato and Tobirama's.
    3) Sasuke's ability does not require a weapon or a touch with a seal in order for the transmission to work, whereas Minato and Tobirama's does.
    4) Sasuke's ability is limited in distance whereas Minato and Tobirama's are unlimited in distance.
    5) For Sasuke's transmission to work, his left eye has to view an object or simply an area for him to switch places with. It's weak in that respect if you can blind that one sharingan eye from seeing a location.
    6) He cannot switch places with his eyes closed.
    7) There may be another cool down time for how many times he can use the ability in general...seeing as how he had to close his eye when Naruto re-made Kakashi's eye.



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    Sasuke's S/T have alot of weakness.
    1. He can't teleport without an object or someone. That's somehow his ''marking'' for his ability.
    2. He can't teleport a deym big jutsu like bijuudama.
    3. He can't use it instantaneously like hiraishin.
    4. He can't use it from one dimension to another.

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    Re: "Suwappu no basho" - Swap Places in Japanese - Sasuke's One Ability and it's Limits

    Quote Originally Posted by xXan View Post
    Your last point. He switched places with Sakura's vest. Obviously her vest is not of the same size as Sasuke.
    I said "similiar", because he obviously can't switch place with a particle of dust.
    Quote Originally Posted by IChallengeYou! View Post
    TOBI IS OBITO

    did you say something about timelines?! naruto ate it NOM NOM NOM IT'S GONE.

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    Re: "Suwappu no basho" - Swap Places in Japanese - Sasuke's One Ability and it's Limits

    Quote Originally Posted by marshall313 View Post
    Sasuke's S/T have alot of weakness.
    1. He can't teleport without an object or someone. That's somehow his ''marking'' for his ability.
    2. He can't teleport a deym big jutsu like bijuudama.
    3. He can't use it instantaneously like hiraishin.
    4. He can't use it from one dimension to another.
    We don't really know what he can or can't use it on, but it seems tailor made to work with Naruto.

    He can swap places with Naruto's clones (as we've seen), and likely with Naruto's Truthseeker Orbs. I imagine he can probably swap places with thrown ninja tools, too.

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    Re: "Suwappu no basho" - Swap Places in Japanese - Sasuke's One Ability and it's Limits

    I'm not sure Sasuke requires eyesight to teleport because once again, when Madara was turned into a big blob during his Kaguya transformation, Sasuke teleported behind him. He couldn't have seen through the blob as it was permeated with enormous amounts of chakra. Also when he saved both he and Naruto from hitting the lava:

    http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/680/15 Sasuke's behind Kaguya, and Naruto's in front of her...

    http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/681 They're both falling to the lava moving further away from each other, but actually facing each other.

    http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/681/3 Now he teleports and ends up behind Naruto, stopping him from falling into the lava.

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    Re: "Suwappu no basho" - Swap Places in Japanese - Sasuke's One Ability and it's Limits

    Quote Originally Posted by ninjabot View Post
    I'm not sure Sasuke requires eyesight to teleport because once again, when Madara was turned into a big blob during his Kaguya transformation, Sasuke teleported behind him. He couldn't have seen through the blob as it was permeated with enormous amounts of chakra. Also when he saved both he and Naruto from hitting the lava:

    http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/680/15 Sasuke's behind Kaguya, and Naruto's in front of her...

    http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/681 They're both falling to the lava moving further away from each other, but actually facing each other.

    http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/681/3 Now he teleports and ends up behind Naruto, stopping him from falling into the lava.
    It looks like he dropped out of hyper space in front of Madara with just enough time to slash, in the same manner Tobirama did to take out Izuna.

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