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    Next Year's 1st String

    I doubt the manga will stretch into the next school year, so we'll probably never get an answer to this, but how do you think the 1st String will look like once Byoudouin and co. graduate and the 3rd year MSers can play for the HS division?

    Since the MSers seem to have been invited only for the MS WC, let's assume Ryoma, Kintarou and the current 2nd years have to sit out for one to two years.

    Please list 20 players, the top 14 can be who you'd take along to the WC though.

    Spoiler: My list show


    Might make some changes later on, deciding on the lower spots was pretty difficult.

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    Re: Next Year's 1st String

    I do recon Tokugawa will become No. 1 in his 3rd year. Mouri would probably stay in the 1st string too, if anything he'd be No. 2. I don't see him getting owned by many MSers.

    I'll make a list tomorrow. But with your list, there is no way Kite or Oishi would be higher than Niou. Just saying :P

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    Re: Next Year's 1st String

    Quote Originally Posted by ChinkyCandie View Post
    I'll make a list tomorrow. But with your list, there is no way Kite or Oishi would be higher than Niou. Just saying :P
    They're there for doubles. Kite is Marui's ideal partner and I had a hard time coming up with a new partner for Mouri - Oishi might be able to control him though and I think they would complement each other decently.

    Can't see Mouri getting a singles spot over Yukimura, Sanada and Atobe.

    EDIT: I guess Mouri/Hara could be good if Hara grows enough to break into the G10 (which I'm not too confident about though).

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    Re: Next Year's 1st String

    With all due respect Kirihara and Momoshiro probably have to be on this list.
    I mean, for some reason unbeknownst to the readers so far, Kirihara is good enough to be part of the damn overseas group.
    I mean I guess we just have to swallow the "fact" that perhaps Shiraishi/Kirihara is significantly superior to WoK and Data Pair.

    But yeah, I think that Momoshiro has had a crazy improvement rate so he'd probably make that list.
    Good list but I'd push Oishi back. I'm not too decided on who should pair with Mouri since he seems flexible with anyone.

    But Oishi w/out Niou. How good is he really? He's just an okay player.
    Without Synchro, Niou/Yagyuu >> Niou/Oishi for example.
    Oishi Territory is nice but it couldn't truly defeat Shishido/Ootori or Niou/Yagyuu for that matter.

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    Re: Next Year's 1st String

    Like I said in the opening post, I'm not considering the current 2nd year MSers because they'll still be MSers next year and the only reason those were invited at all was apparently for the special WC division. I don't think they'll get invited next year and only get to come back once they've entered HS.

    As for Oishi, I'm kinda banking on him improving during the time he's not tied to Kikumaru.

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    Re: Next Year's 1st String

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaoz View Post
    Like I said in the opening post, I'm not considering the current 2nd year MSers because they'll still be MSers next year and the only reason those were invited at all was apparently for the special WC division. I don't think they'll get invited next year and only get to come back once they've entered HS.

    As for Oishi, I'm kinda banking on him improving during the time he's not tied to Kikumaru.
    I see. So the 2nd Years and Ryoma/Kintaro would probably forced to stay in the MS division next year then. With that kinda scenario in mind,

    I still think its wrong for Oishi to have a G10 badge since all the G10 are rather complete players at both Singles and Doubles. Oishi is a bit of a joke at Singles and I'm talking just at 3rdCourt level let alone G10.
    Away from Kikumaru, which is what he has been since he entered the damn camp, he has nothing other than OT, which he already had.
    Like seriously, had Oishi been paired with Fuji against Mutsu/Mutsu, then they'd have lost. Even though individually at that time Fuji may have been able to edge out Niou.
    I think Niou's abilities were the catalyst for victory in that match. Oishi is very overrated as a Doubles player imo.
    Marui/Kite would slaughter Marui/Oishi.
    In fact, I would like to hear a breakdown on why Oishi/Mouri > Marui/Kite. Unless you're assuming Mouri can single-handedly win the match, since if Tohno struggled against WC then Mouri surely will. And Oishi can't cope with Ohabu with or without Marui hiding its path.

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    Re: Next Year's 1st String

    Quote Originally Posted by Airgrimes View Post
    In fact, I would like to hear a breakdown on why Oishi/Mouri > Marui/Kite. Unless you're assuming Mouri can single-handedly win the match, since if Tohno struggled against WC then Mouri surely will. And Oishi can't cope with Ohabu with or without Marui hiding its path.
    Here's your breakdown. This doesn't equate to Mouri/Oishi > Marui/Kite at the moment, but they aren't nearly as hopeless as you're making them out to be and I believe they will improve more than Marui/Kite until next year.

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    Re: Next Year's 1st String

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaoz View Post
    Here's your breakdown. This doesn't equate to Mouri/Oishi > Marui/Kite at the moment, but they aren't nearly as hopeless as you're making them out to be and I believe they will improve more than Marui/Kite until next year.
    Appreciated.

    Back on topic, this is a great list. The only thing debatable now for me is you having Ishida above Fuwa.
    Personally, I feel that there is some kind of threshold where 108th HAdoukyuu can't defeat you if you're skilled enough. I think Fuwa's stats imply he's at that level. Considering 108th Hadoukyuu is said to be less dangerous than SuperMegatonDeluxe, and that got snuffed out back in Part I.

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    Re: Next Year's 1st String

    My list,
    1.Tokugawa
    2.Yukimura
    3.Atobe
    4.Sanada
    No. 5 Niou / No. 6 Yagyuu
    No. 7 Mitsuya / No. 8 Ynagi
    No. 9 Marui / No. 10 Kite
    No. 11 Mouri
    No. 12 Eiji / No. 13 Osihi
    No. 14 Shiraishi
    No. 15 Tachibana / No. 16 Chitose
    No. 17 Fuji
    No. 18 Yuushi/ No. 19 Kenya
    No. 20 Akutsu

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    Re: Next Year's 1st String

    So here's mine:
    1. Tokugawa
    2. Yukimura
    3. Atobe
    4. Mori (just because he's still got 2 more years at the camp)
    5. Sanada
    6. Niou/7. Yagyu
    8. Kintaro
    9. Mitsuya/10. Yanagi
    11. Shiraishi
    12. Fuji
    13. Gin
    14. Marui/ 15. Kite
    16. Kirihara
    17. Inui
    18. Yushi/ 19. Kenya (pretty sure cousins would work well together)
    20. Yamato

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    Re: Next Year's 1st String

    Quote Originally Posted by Airgrimes View Post
    The only thing debatable now for me is you having Ishida above Fuwa.
    Personally, I feel that there is some kind of threshold where 108th HAdoukyuu can't defeat you if you're skilled enough. I think Fuwa's stats imply he's at that level. Considering 108th Hadoukyuu is said to be less dangerous than SuperMegatonDeluxe, and that got snuffed out back in Part I.
    Yeah, just based on skill I'd also say Fuwa > Gin. The only reason why I have Gin at 14 and Fuwa at 17 is that I said the first 14 would be those I'd take along to the WC and I wanted the token power player. That said, I think that if Gin gets a bit more speed he'll become quite dangerous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChinkyCandie View Post
    2. Yukimura
    3. Atobe
    4. Mori (just because he's still got 2 more years at the camp)
    5. Sanada
    6. Niou/7. Yagyu
    On the rather possible assumption that Niou and Yagyuu could Synchro with one another in a pinch like Niou did with Atobe then I am certainly in agreement with this list.
    Although, Considering Mouri considers Sanada a rival and Sanada barely acknowledged his existence in the Ochi/Mouri match, I'm kinda sure Sanada has the edge over him there. I'd switch the two.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaoz View Post
    Yeah, just based on skill I'd also say Fuwa > Gin. The only reason why I have Gin at 14 and Fuwa at 17 is that I said the first 14 would be those I'd take along to the WC and I wanted the token power player. That said, I think that if Gin gets a bit more speed he'll become quite dangerous.
    No doubt Gin would be more dangerous but then that would be too much improvement surely. He'd be as complete as his HS counterparts.
    Date/Duke are kinda too flawless as Power Players for me. They're literally just so good on paper it's hard to believe they're power players.
    I can certainly see Date edging out Mouri for instance.

    I get what you mean about a token Power Player though. Isn't Fuwa better than our highly anticipated Fuji though? I mean we'd all love to see Fuji hit a ball in an official match in SPoT but I don't see him defeating Fuwa.

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    Re: Next Year's 1st String

    Quote Originally Posted by Airgrimes View Post
    Isn't Fuwa better than our highly anticipated Fuji though? I mean we'd all love to see Fuji hit a ball in an official match in SPoT but I don't see him defeating Fuwa.
    At the moment, most likely yes. However this isn't a list for right now, but for in a few months from now. And then Fuji might be better.

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    Re: Next Year's 1st String

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaoz View Post
    At the moment, most likely yes. However this isn't a list for right now, but for in a few months from now. And then Fuji might be better.
    I see, the assumption that Fuji will get an insane move for his 7th Counter. I want to believe this will happen too. I'm getting a little restless to see Fuji do something absurd on the court now.

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    Re: Next Year's 1st String

    Tokugawa might not actually be the number 1. I mean he will get stronger now that hes No.4 but the MSs just grow too quickly to still be behind tokugawa. By the end of the WC, the top MSs might rival the top 5 HSs. I mean they wont beat them but they can last at least till maybe a tiebreak or 7-5. Its entirely possi9ble that he will be No.1 though and the probablity he will be is 80%.

    My list is :
    1. Tokugawa/Yukimura
    2.Tokugawa/Yukimura
    3.Atobe/Sanada
    4.Atobe/Sanada
    5.Shiraishi
    6.Akutsu
    7. Kite
    8.Fuji
    9. Niou
    10.Mouri/Gin
    11. Bunta
    12. Oishi/Fuwa
    13.Chitose
    14.Tachibana
    15. Yanagi
    16.Yagyuu
    17. Yuushi
    18. Kawamura
    19.Mitsuya
    20. Inui/Eiji/Kenya

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