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Translations: Gintama 510 (2)
How would you rank the Supernova by powerscaling? Do not include Luffy and Zoro, please.
Since Kidd never showed anything impressive aside from that giant arm made of weapons of his, which we don't even know how powerful it is, I can't say he's the strongest of them.
I'd say that X Drake is the strongest of them. He was a Rear Admiral before becoming a pirate, and we know that RA is one rank below Vice Admirals, which is very impressive. Second, he is pretty strong.
Capone and Bonney has very cool abilities. Bonney can probably shoot beams like Hancock's and Foxy's, since she was sitting on a building when she affected the marines with her ability. As for Capone, I'd say that his ability works vice versa as well - I mean, that if things that come out out of his body restore its original size, so things that come at him, will become smaller. Things like punches, or weapons, so it's pretty much a good defence.
What do you think, why did oda put such a weak supernova. I'm talking about capone ofks. I just don't see it, even buggy can defeat him. Without his men he is just a short old man without any kind of power? Can somebody shed some light on this question
I think we have to wait for his reappearrance to judge him properly.. so /chill
€ however I agree his powers seem weak but as Croco said" I depends on how you train your df "
well i think some are underestimating his ability, of course he needs his men, but just think about over the things you can dowith that... he could let giants punch out of him, a skilled swordman could send some flying slashes, he can act to enemys from his back etc. its quite a strong ability if you uses that right
Bounty is not the measure of someone's power, but someone's threat level to the government.
So you think that his only use is having men inside his body?
Please tell me what his power is. If you can tell me exactly what his power is you either have a startling power of foresight or you're not seeing the big picture.
What is the big picture I hear you ask? Well, if he can make things go from small to big from inside to outside his body, what happens in the reverse scenario?
We've also never seen him physically attack, just leave it to his "sons". Not attacking is not the same as having a weak attack.
Well from the factual knowledge we have "he" defeated a squad of Marines and was able to safely exit SA after the arrival of Kizaru. Not only that but really I think his power is quite strong actually. But know what? we have absolutely no Idea of what he's fully capable of. One way or the other he did enough to rise in the world of piracy to SN level, and is headed beyond.
Sure he looks like Al Capone, but seems like he's been around. There's more to being influential than simple brute force...
the strawhats seem to have the smallest crew out of the other supernova crews. for sure hawkins and capone have bigger crews. i cant wait to see their crews introduced.
i would assume we will not see the supernova for a while after law takes off.
Would be funny if Law's bounty raises after they confirm that Kizaru didn't hit him. Just that it's higher than Kidd's. If Luffy's also raises than Kidd would freak out for not taking action in the war
http://www.mangareader.net/103-2605-...apter-498.html and shakky replies telling them that's kidd's bounty was just due to his slaughters http://www.mangareader.net/103-2605-...apter-498.html .anyway,I think that's not the right place to discuss about that,because we haven't enough infos yet. I hope the very next chapter will give us some details of those killed by Law.
the only point I'd like to share with you about this: don't you think that the marines would have said "100 pirates over 100M" or "100 pirate captains" if they had been captains or with bounties over 100M anyway? I think that hints they weren't all so strong,but just a proof to advise the WG that Law could kill pirates for them.
Oda does not have to spell out that the 100 pirates were strong. Nitpicking about the exact amount of their bounties aside, logic dictates that the government would have been uimpressed had Law handed over a hodgepodge of high and low bounty pirates.
It is quite simple: Kid and his crew took a blast of Rayliegh's haki at the auction house and were still standing. That is no joke. He is at least comparable to Law and Luffy. Drake will also be quite powerful, we already know that he challenged a Yonko and is still alive, two years later. Kid has also challenged a Yonko and lived to tell. Both have been mentioned by name as having made a name for themselves in the New World. There should be know doubt both will be very important later on. Apoo, on the other hand, has already been chased off an island in the New World. By wild pigs. Not an auspicious start.
Otherwise we obviously know where Law stands. Hawkins brief post war appearance was impressive. Hard to say how strong he is but we know he can at least hold his own in the New World. Bonney was already defeated, the Capone Pirates appear to have been defeated. Killer will obviously be very strong, as part of Kid's crew. We obviously know where Zoro stands. The only Supernova who's strength is an unknown is Urouge. Not enough has been shown of him in the New World to predict success or failure.
Last edited by Kaiten; April 13, 2012 at 04:37 PM.
I always thought that Bounties were a measure of strength. At least that's how Luffy sees it. As for Bege, we don't even know if he's still around. Remember what happened to his ship?
you can see Bege in the picture at the bottom, so he should still be around. If bounty were a measure of strength, Nico Robin wouldn't have gotten a 79m bounty at 8.