WHOA! i havent even read yet, but all this talk is making me excited.
This speculation about Noahs and allen's father is getting out of hand... but it is reasonable in a way. That would explain why Allen's on Tiki's hit list .( At first i thought it was bcos of Allen's curse eye)
Actually i feel that Allen just loves the feel of battle and hates to see anything suffer, even akuma. so he puts them out of misery through the battles he enjoys. any more opinions?
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I recently started reading the series. About two days ago, actually, and spent all day downloading and reading the chapters. O_O;
Anyway, I think it <i>has</i> gotten much better, but I guess it's probably because I'm a bigger fan of Rinali and Rabi than Kanda. Eh. I don't like him, he comes off as the typical cold-hearted bastard rivial for the wonderful hero, who can't stand him because he's so callous to other people's suffering. And thus the slash pairings commence >_>; Sooo... I also like the later chapters. The characters are developing and the plots getting way better. I guess I'm just really into the emotional stuff. Haha.
But, just to kill a theory or two, Mana was Allen's adoptive father, so they are not related by blood. It is also said that Allen was discarded at birth because of his defective arm. If his blood father was actually some dude who knew all about the Innocence and stuff, then why would he throw away his own son, if he had the rather obvious Innocence cross on the back of his hand? I suppose there are ways around that fact. Perhaps it was his ignorant mother who threw him away, maybe he's a secret lovechild, maybe the Noah father <i>didn't</i> recognize what his arm meant, and all sorts of other ridiculous ideas... But I doubt that his father was the Noah who was killed. As cool as that would be, it wouldn't make sense.
^^It's been so long since i read the first chapters that i didn't remember Allen was adopted and discarded.
About your theory, it could be that his father was being targeted by the Noah or the Earl and that's why he discarded him, so Allen still can be related to the turned Noah (though i don't know if the Noahs can have childs)
I think the Noahs can have children; they're superhumans Right now, I'm torn whether the turned Noah is Allen's biological or adopted father. Both are plausible candidates. If it's the former, he probably abandoned Allen for Allen's safety. But how does abandoning Allen make him safe? It could be that the other Noahs do not know what Allen looked like or maybe even didn't know that the turned Noah has a son. What if Allen's father (IF that's who he is) was supposed to meet Mana or Cross to entrust Allen to his care?
Originally Posted by Bloodcrave
or maybe his father threw him away coz he's scared the innocence will kill him :P
I'm not sure they could have childs, no matter how you look at them they are like frankenstein, they are possibly made and not born.
Originally Posted by Ayah
But how does abandoning Allen make him safe? It could be that the other Noahs do not know what Allen looked like or maybe even didn't know that the turned Noah has a son.
If Allen is related to the turned Noah, the Earl could think of him as the new controler, and he'd be targeted as a child. It's true that now he's also targeted but possibly only because he's related to Cross.
Btw, now that i think about it, Allen's adoptive father must have been just a normal person, cause he was turned into an akuma by the earl right? So that leaves us with only his biological father. (i may be wrong)
Ok just read it .
I dont see any similarities that lead to speculation that Allen's father was a Noah. I mean, from the figure, as Hoshino-sensei colored to whole Noah black.
anyway dun you think we should be more concerned about the battle?
Things dont look good...:
1.Rabi is fighting Tiki (cool combo seal!) who reputedly finished off a General, a feat the other Noahs havent done
2. Bookman and Crowley are attacking a enormous combined LV 3 made of at least a THOUSAND level 3!
luckily, Kanda's gang are here to provide reinforcements and Allen will be there soon...if he dunt get hopelessly lost, which i suspect he will